• RE: Bricked VOXL2 on Starling 2 Max

    @tom , what would be the right course of action here? Thanks!

    posted in Starling & Starling 2
  • RE: Coordinate system in AR0144 Tracking Camera

    Hello @Dronodev ,

    The other side of the M0166 PCB has a picture of a tiny figure which shows the nominal "up" orientation. You will see the little guy in the image below (coax cables are going up):
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    So if you flip the camera around to point away from you, then reference frame will be (right-handed):

    • X : right
    • Y : down
    • Z : out of the camera lens

    So your first diagram (on the left) is correct.

    Here is specifically what en_rotate flag in voxl-camera-server.conf does for AR0144 camera:

    • it sets the camera configuration / register such that the image is read out backwards (rotated 180 degrees) from camera to VOXL2
    • no rotation is done in software (voxl-camera-server)

    If you enable the rotation this way, you will need to either re-do the camera calibration or rotate your intrinsics manually, which I guess is trivial.

    In terms of extrinsics (in /etc/modalai/extrinsics.conf file), you will need to update the camera rotation by 180 degrees along the Z-axis, if en_rotate flag is used (assuming you had it already configured for the non-rotated configuration).

    Alex

    posted in Image Sensors
  • RE: Need Camera connector details posted in Questions by Product
  • RE: VOXL ESC 4 in 1 Fire

    Hello @awagner ,

    I am sorry this happened to you. A few questions / comments:

    It seems your motor is too large for this mini ESC

    • https://docs.modalai.com/voxl-mini-esc-datasheet/

      • "This Mini ESC is designed for aerial vehicles under 750g (under 500g for FPV racing applications). For larger slow flying vehicles up to 1500g, please use the VOXL 4-in-1 ESC. For FPV racers exceeding 500g, please use VOXL 4-in-1 FPV ESC."
    • the kp value is very aggressive (typically i would recommend starting at 0 kp and ki (proportional and integral gains) and ramp those up to increase responsiveness.

    • the spin-up type should be set to 1 (sinusoidal), since it is much more reliable. Which parameters did you start with when you calibrated your ESC? i suspect that improper spin-up caused the ESC to get out of sync and fail due to excessive current.

    I know it can be difficult to get started with using new hardware. Aside from the need for updated esc parameters, the issue here is that the mini ESC is not suitable for your motors / propellers. I strongly recommend upgrading to our FPV ESC , which is build to handle a lot of power and stress:

    Once you get the FPV ESC, I can help with the tuning (let me know, i can provide updated params before you test gain).

    Please submit an RMA request, https://www.modalai.com/pages/rma . I would recommend at least a discount on the new ESC. We will try to improve documentation to avoid this in the future.

    Alex

    posted in ESCs
  • RE: Camera Calibration issues

    Hello @taiwohazeez ,

    Thank you for sending updated images.

    Just for sanity checking, please double check that the other tracking camera on your drone is in focus and does not have this issue.. (i assume that is true).

    To me, it definitely looks likes either

    • damaged or dirty lens on the external lens surface
    • damaged or dirty lens on the internal lens surface (the back surface of the lens)
    • dirty surface of the camera sensor itself (inside the camera module)

    If you are comfortable with unscrewing the lens completely and wiping it (front and back) with a new microfiber cloth (preferably long strand) and screw it back again to check if there is any improvement. Also, once you remove the lens, you can take a look at the sensor itself, any dirt or smudges should be very easy to detect because the surface of the camera sensor is very reflective and should be perfectly clean. I can't recommend cleaning the sensor itself on your own, since that would involve inserting something inside the camera module, which could lead to damage. Please dont keep the lens out of the lens holder for a long time (hours) as dust or dirt may get inside on the surface of the sensor (do not perform this procedure in a dusty environment).

    Please reach out to https://www.modalai.com/pages/rma if you need further help to get this fixed / replaced.

    Alex

    posted in Support Request Format for Best Results
  • RE: Python MPA image

    @l05 , when in doubt, you can add a print statement in your app as a sanity check to make sure you are running the correct version of the application. Then check your print statement at run time.

    If you are modifying an existing app in voxl-mpa-tools, you just need to use the voxl-cross docker image to

    • build the source code
    • build the package (deb)
    • deploy the package (either manually pushing and dpkg -i <package.deb> on target) or using a convenience script deploy_to_voxl.sh which is typically present in most voxl projects -- this script will push the deb to voxl2 and install the deb.
    • run your new application on voxl and confirm functionality

    If you are adding a new app to voxl-mpa-tools project, you will need to modify the CMakeLists.txt file in the tools folder, it should be self explanatory how to add a simple app. Once you build and deploy, your new app will be installed into /usr/bin on voxl2.

    If you have any other questions, let me know.

    Alex

    posted in Modal Pipe Architecture (MPA)
  • RE: Request for Detailed Datasheet and Power Consumption – MSU-M0186-1-109

    Hello @shalini-kumari ,

    The M0186 camera uses the Sony IMX664 sensor. You can find high level information for the M0186 module here https://docs.modalai.com/M0186/ (as well as a link to the basic documentation from Sony).

    The camera sensor itself (within M0186 module) requires three primary voltages, 3.3V, 1.8V and 1.1V. The maximum power consumption is 0.6-0.7W (theoretical), although we have not explicitly measured it.This is for a worst case, full frame resolution 120FPS. VOXL2 and the M0186 module provide the appropriate voltages for the IMX664 sensor to function properly.

    Note that the power consumption of the whole system will not only depend on the camera resolution, fps, it will also depend on what you are doing with the images in VOXL2 (since VOXL2 will also consume power processing the images).

    Hopefully this helps.

    Alex

    posted in Ask your questions right here!
  • RE: VOXL Mini 4 in 1 ESC query

    Hi @Aaky ,

    I looked at the log using our customized version of flight-review (https://github.com/modalai/px4-flight-review), which you can run locally on your linux machine (the custom version of flight-review provides additional plots related to ESC and some other fields).

    The RPM tracking looks good - tight tracking and not a lot of noise in commands (meaning IMU is well isolated, there are no significant vibrations or esc-induced oscillations).
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    ESC temps are ok (although this is a pretty short test!)
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    Power
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    The total battery current seems to be around 35A, meaning 8-9A per motor, which is still a very comfortable load for this ESC, as long as you can keep the ESC temperature not exceeding 100C (it should still run OK at 125C and higher, but that's definitely not recommended, and if you have to do that for short bursts, it may be ok). Unless you are trying to push the performance to the limit somehow, stay below 90-100C for the ESC temps. You can also significantly help with ESC cooling by adding a heat spreader to significantly increase the thermal mass of the ESC (which is very low, since the board is so tiny). Adding a heat spreader will make the cooling more efficient.

    You should double check your PX4 params for min and max rpm to match what you have in the ESC params, since at the end it seems that PX4 is sending a low RPM that is not achievable by the ESC:
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    Since we are talking about ESC temps, you can actually set up a parameter to send a warning or critical message (which you should see in QGC) for different ESC temperature thresholds : https://github.com/modalai/px4-firmware/blob/voxl-dev/src/drivers/actuators/voxl_esc/voxl_esc_params.c#L249. Just for full disclosure, we don't test this PX4 feature frequently, but my understanding is that if you hit the warning threshold, QGC should show a warning and CRITICAL limit may actually cause a behavior change in PX4, I am not sure. The ESC driver in PX4 just sends out a warning message, but how it is handled is up to PX4.

    Honestly I don't really see any issues with this setup, even though it is heavier than I would recommend for this ESC. I would suggest that you slowly build up confidence in this setup and start flying a bit more aggressively and checking the log for the metrics i mentioned in this post and checking ESC temps.

    Alex

    posted in ESCs
  • RE: Starling2 :One motor fails when changing power from AC/DC adapter to battery

    Hello, @HsinSWT ,

    I am assuming your are using a 12V AC/DC adapter, which is higher voltage than the 2S battery used with Starling 2. Using 12V bench testing is OK, so that should not be an issue.

    The ESC should already have the correct parameters loaded for the Starling 2 Motors and the correct battery voltage (2S). Inability to start at the nominal voltage, but success when using 12V is likely a symptom of a motor damage. Even though the ESC does have voltage compensation, it is limited (on purpose, for safety) and if you apply higher voltage, like 12V instead of 7-8V, the ESC will actually output higher power during the spin-up phase.

    Also please make sure you are using the latest ESC firmware, there are a lot of tips here : https://docs.modalai.com/voxl-escs/faq/

    Once you start using voxl-esc tools, you can also spin one motor at a time (or all 4 at a time) and get real-time RPM feedback. You could use your 12V supply and spin the motors at 10% power and see what RPMs they actually spin at. A faulty motor would spin slower. Please be careful while testing, since the drone could fly up if you send a wrong command, you could also test without propellers, the motor issue should be observable in unloaded motor RPMs as well.

    Another typical issue with motors not spinning up is damage of motor windings due to mounting screws going into the windings (which could happen if the landing gear is removed, but the same screws are used to attach the motors). I am not saying this is the case here, but worth inspecting the motor windings on the under side, right where the motor mounting screws could make contact with the windings if the screws were too long.

    If you do have a milli-ohm meter accessible to you, you could actually measure the motor winding resistance (while the drone is powered off, but motors can remain soldered to the ESC). You can compare the milli-ohm readings from working motors vs non-working (check all phases pair-wise).

    The rust on the inductor is only cosmetic. We are aware of this "issue", but it's really not an issue (rust on a iron case of an inductor - the case does not really affect the inductor itself).

    Hopefully this helps!

    Alex

    posted in Starling & Starling 2
  • RE: fully factory reset my Starling V1

    @colombe-ai , when you flash a voxl2 SDK, there should be an option to set it up from scratch. did you try it?

    https://docs.modalai.com/voxl-suite/

    Alex

    posted in Starling & Starling 2