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  • A AidanGallagher

    Hi,

    Can I connect a doodle lab radio to the J12 connector on the Ethernet and USB Hub board?

    I have connected it and ran voxl-configure-modem

    When I check ifconfig eth0 the IP details looks correct but I cannot ping any other IP address on the Doodle network.

    Regards
    Aidan

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    @AidanGallagher Are you able to ping the doodle modem itself? Also double check you aren't trying to use an IP that is already being used on the doodle network

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      @AidanGallagher Are you able to ping the doodle modem itself? Also double check you aren't trying to use an IP that is already being used on the doodle network

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      @tom Cannot ping the modem and I am certain its a free IP address.

      I tried a USB Expansion Board with Fastboot v2 I had on another setup and it works so the issues does seem to be on related to this board.
      Is there a jumper I need to set to enable the J12 header?

      Regards
      Aidan

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        @tom Cannot ping the modem and I am certain its a free IP address.

        I tried a USB Expansion Board with Fastboot v2 I had on another setup and it works so the issues does seem to be on related to this board.
        Is there a jumper I need to set to enable the J12 header?

        Regards
        Aidan

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        @AidanGallagher Can you post a picture of the setup you're using?

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          @AidanGallagher Can you post a picture of the setup you're using?

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          @tom ill do that tomorrow when I'm back in the office

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            @tom ill do that tomorrow when I'm back in the office

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            • A AidanGallagher

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              That's my working solution

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                That's my working solution

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                  This solution doesn't work

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                  • A AidanGallagher

                    This solution doesn't work

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                    @AidanGallagher With an M0130 USB breakout board

                    M0130: https://www.modalai.com/products/m0130-3?variant=48186331693360

                    You can use this cable:
                    MCBL-00085: https://www.modalai.com/products/mcbl-00085?_pos=2&_sid=0c5d87c5e&_ss=r

                    and get rid of the need for the doodle breakout board

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                      @AidanGallagher With an M0130 USB breakout board

                      M0130: https://www.modalai.com/products/m0130-3?variant=48186331693360

                      You can use this cable:
                      MCBL-00085: https://www.modalai.com/products/mcbl-00085?_pos=2&_sid=0c5d87c5e&_ss=r

                      and get rid of the need for the doodle breakout board

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                      @tom that's cool we will take a look at that in the future.
                      Any idea why I cannot use the J12 port on the ethernet expansion board?

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                      • A AidanGallagher

                        @tom that's cool we will take a look at that in the future.
                        Any idea why I cannot use the J12 port on the ethernet expansion board?

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                        @AidanGallagher I don't, if you tried connecting internet over ethernet or some other ethernet device does it work?

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                          @AidanGallagher I don't, if you tried connecting internet over ethernet or some other ethernet device does it work?

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                          @tom I haven't tried the ethernet port yet. I have used the physical USB port with a WiFi dongle and that worked well.

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                            @tom that's cool we will take a look at that in the future.
                            Any idea why I cannot use the J12 port on the ethernet expansion board?

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                            Hi @AidanGallagher
                            That USB2 port Port, J12, on M0062 is not much different than many other expansion board USB ports. It goes through a HUB, and as Tom pointed out, if you use M0130, your setup will simplify.
                            M00130 is the only USB2 product we have that can power the Doodle directly: https://docs.modalai.com/expansion-design-guide/#usb-expansion-over-j3--j5
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                            I'm not entirely sure either why your M0062 will not work, but I'm thinking it may be something with the grounding and VBUS connection due to the external board you use for power, and it not sharing a ground with the M0062 where the USB comes from. For example, our MCBL-00085-1 handles all that: https://docs.modalai.com/cable-datasheets/#mcbl-00085
                            Our USB3 debug board does not have a current limiting IC like M0062 has, and will not impact USB operations. However, with M0062, since it goes through the hub, and it has power control, if anything goes wrong with power or ground, the port may be disabled.
                            I would first try to see if your J12 port works normally, with a thumb drive for example (or I think you did that with a WiFi and were good). Then, if you want to try to share some more ground connections between your M0062 and the external power supply, that could be a good test.

                            But, we do suggest you change to an M0130 as you will have a much nicer setup long term.
                            Hope that helps.

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                              Hi @AidanGallagher ,

                              I'm using the same setup and had success with changes all instances of eth0 to eth1 under $MODEM == "doodle" under $PLATFORM == "qrb5165-rb5 in the script /usr/bin/voxl-modem-start

                              It appears that when using the hub, the hub's build-in USB to ethernet chip always appears as eth0 (smsc75xx), even if nothing is plugged in

                              The stock modem script at /usr/bin/voxl-modem-start hard-codes doodles static ip to eth0.

                              under dmesg -w, when the dodole radio i plugged in (or just later on in the boot sequence), smsc95xx is assigned to eth1.

                              as a result, the ip ends of being assigned to the wrong interface and the radio cannot pass traffic

                              @Vinny , is there a better way to make these changes? something that won't get overwritten when a modal ai update occurs?

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                                Hi @AidanGallagher ,

                                I'm using the same setup and had success with changes all instances of eth0 to eth1 under $MODEM == "doodle" under $PLATFORM == "qrb5165-rb5 in the script /usr/bin/voxl-modem-start

                                It appears that when using the hub, the hub's build-in USB to ethernet chip always appears as eth0 (smsc75xx), even if nothing is plugged in

                                The stock modem script at /usr/bin/voxl-modem-start hard-codes doodles static ip to eth0.

                                under dmesg -w, when the dodole radio i plugged in (or just later on in the boot sequence), smsc95xx is assigned to eth1.

                                as a result, the ip ends of being assigned to the wrong interface and the radio cannot pass traffic

                                @Vinny , is there a better way to make these changes? something that won't get overwritten when a modal ai update occurs?

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                                Hi @shawn_ricardo
                                That is more of a question for @tom

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                                  Hi @AidanGallagher ,

                                  I'm using the same setup and had success with changes all instances of eth0 to eth1 under $MODEM == "doodle" under $PLATFORM == "qrb5165-rb5 in the script /usr/bin/voxl-modem-start

                                  It appears that when using the hub, the hub's build-in USB to ethernet chip always appears as eth0 (smsc75xx), even if nothing is plugged in

                                  The stock modem script at /usr/bin/voxl-modem-start hard-codes doodles static ip to eth0.

                                  under dmesg -w, when the dodole radio i plugged in (or just later on in the boot sequence), smsc95xx is assigned to eth1.

                                  as a result, the ip ends of being assigned to the wrong interface and the radio cannot pass traffic

                                  @Vinny , is there a better way to make these changes? something that won't get overwritten when a modal ai update occurs?

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                                  @shawn_ricardo Not really a better way at this point, I'd like to at some point just make the network interface able to be specified in the config file as opposed to hard-coded as eth0, but haven't gotten to that yet

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                                    @shawn_ricardo Not really a better way at this point, I'd like to at some point just make the network interface able to be specified in the config file as opposed to hard-coded as eth0, but haven't gotten to that yet

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                                    @tom @shawn_ricardo Thanks very much - ill give that a try

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