Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups
Collapse
Brand Logo

ModalAI Forum

  1. ModalAI Support Forum
  2. VOXL Dev Drones
  3. Starling & Starling 2
  4. Starling 2: TOF sensor not recognized by VOXL Portal

Starling 2: TOF sensor not recognized by VOXL Portal

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Starling & Starling 2
28 Posts 3 Posters 5.6k Views 1 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • Alex KushleyevA Alex Kushleyev

    Hello @hgutier ,

    Can you please provide output of voxl-camera-server -l, which will scan all the connected cameras? You can just list the top part, something like this (just an example). Please note that this command will stop the background camera server service, if it's running, which can be restarted using systemctl start voxl-camera-server or just rebooting voxl2.

     voxl-camera-server -l
    DEBUG:   Attempting to open the hal module
    DEBUG:   SUCCESS: Camera module opened on attempt 0
    DEBUG:   ----------- Number of cameras: 3
    
    DEBUG:   Cam idx: 0, Cam slot: 0, Slave Address: 0x0020, Sensor Id: 0x0214
    DEBUG:   Cam idx: 1, Cam slot: 1, Slave Address: 0x0030, Sensor Id: 0x0356
    DEBUG:   Cam idx: 2, Cam slot: 2, Slave Address: 0x0034, Sensor Id: 0x0077
    

    Also, please list the following contents:

    ls /usr/lib/camera/*sensormodule*
    

    We will just double check that the software is set up correctly to use the TOF module.

    Thank you

    Alex

    Hector GutierrezH Offline
    Hector GutierrezH Offline
    Hector Gutierrez
    Contributor
    wrote on last edited by
    #3

    @Alex-Kushleyev

    Hi Alex - apologies for the long delay. Here is the output I get from voxl-camera-server -l :

    voxl2:/$ voxl-camera-server -l
    DEBUG: Attempting to open the hal module
    DEBUG: SUCCESS: Camera module opened on attempt 0
    DEBUG: ----------- Number of cameras: 0
    DEBUG: Note: This list comes from the HAL module and may not be indicative
    DEBUG: of configurations that have full pipelines
    DEBUG: Number of cameras: 0

    In other words, my drone does not see any cameras at all. The same shows when running VOXL portal (zero cameras).
    I just run apt update && apt upgrade successfully in this drone.

    The other command you mentioned gives the following output:
    voxl2:/$ ls /usr/lib/camera/sensormodule
    /usr/lib/camera/com.qti.sensormodule.imx412_2.bin /usr/lib/camera/com.qti.sensormodule.imx412_3.bin

    Please advise - something is really wrong here since I cant see any of my cameras. My Starling 2 has the camera configuration C27 (triple tracking)
    Thanks, Hector

    Alex KushleyevA 1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • Hector GutierrezH Hector Gutierrez

      @Alex-Kushleyev

      Hi Alex - apologies for the long delay. Here is the output I get from voxl-camera-server -l :

      voxl2:/$ voxl-camera-server -l
      DEBUG: Attempting to open the hal module
      DEBUG: SUCCESS: Camera module opened on attempt 0
      DEBUG: ----------- Number of cameras: 0
      DEBUG: Note: This list comes from the HAL module and may not be indicative
      DEBUG: of configurations that have full pipelines
      DEBUG: Number of cameras: 0

      In other words, my drone does not see any cameras at all. The same shows when running VOXL portal (zero cameras).
      I just run apt update && apt upgrade successfully in this drone.

      The other command you mentioned gives the following output:
      voxl2:/$ ls /usr/lib/camera/sensormodule
      /usr/lib/camera/com.qti.sensormodule.imx412_2.bin /usr/lib/camera/com.qti.sensormodule.imx412_3.bin

      Please advise - something is really wrong here since I cant see any of my cameras. My Starling 2 has the camera configuration C27 (triple tracking)
      Thanks, Hector

      Alex KushleyevA Offline
      Alex KushleyevA Offline
      Alex Kushleyev
      ModalAI Team
      wrote on last edited by Alex Kushleyev
      #4

      @Hector-Gutierrez , since you have a standard camera configuration, you should run the following command to configure your VOXL2 for C27:

      voxl-configure-cameras 27
      

      This command should copy the correct sensormodule files to /usr/lib/camera and set up a default config in /etc/modalai/voxl-camera-server.conf for this camera arrangement.

      Alex

      Hector GutierrezH 1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • Alex KushleyevA Alex Kushleyev

        @Hector-Gutierrez , since you have a standard camera configuration, you should run the following command to configure your VOXL2 for C27:

        voxl-configure-cameras 27
        

        This command should copy the correct sensormodule files to /usr/lib/camera and set up a default config in /etc/modalai/voxl-camera-server.conf for this camera arrangement.

        Alex

        Hector GutierrezH Offline
        Hector GutierrezH Offline
        Hector Gutierrez
        Contributor
        wrote on last edited by
        #5

        @Alex-Kushleyev

        Thanks. The output of voxl-camera-server -l is shown below, but it seems generic. Several issues remain:

        • voxl-camera-server detected 4 cameras, but my drone has 5

        • when opening voxl portal, zero cameras are detected. Also, the IMU plotter runs but gives empty plots.

        Please let me know what to try next - it does seem like a hardware problem.

        Thanks - Regards, Hector

        voxl2:/$ voxl-camera-server -l
        DEBUG: Attempting to open the hal module
        DEBUG: SUCCESS: Camera module opened on attempt 0
        DEBUG: ----------- Number of cameras: 4
        DEBUG: Cam idx: 0, Cam slot: 0, Slave Address: 0x0030, Sensor Id: 0x0356
        DEBUG: Cam idx: 1, Cam slot: 1, Slave Address: 0x0034, Sensor Id: 0x0577
        DEBUG: Cam idx: 2, Cam slot: 2, Slave Address: 0x0030, Sensor Id: 0x0356
        DEBUG: Cam idx: 3, Cam slot: 6, Slave Address: 0x0030, Sensor Id: 0x0356
        DEBUG: Note: This list comes from the HAL module and may not be indicative
        DEBUG: of configurations that have full pipelines
        DEBUG: Number of cameras: 4

        Stats for camera: 0

        ANDROID_SCALER_AVAILABLE_RAW_SIZES:
        These are likely supported by the sensor
        1280 x 800
        1280 x 800
        ANDROID_SCALER_AVAILABLE_STREAM_CONFIGURATIONS:
        These are NOT necessarily supported by the sensor
        1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        1280 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        1280 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        1280 x 720 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        1280 x 720 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        1024 x 738 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        1024 x 738 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        1024 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        1024 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        864 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        864 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        800 x 600 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        800 x 600 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        800 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        800 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        720 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        720 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        640 x 512 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        640 x 512 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        640 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        640 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        640 x 400 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        640 x 400 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        640 x 360 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        640 x 360 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        352 x 288 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        352 x 288 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        320 x 240 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        320 x 240 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        240 x 320 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        240 x 320 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        176 x 144 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        176 x 144 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW10
        1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW12
        1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW16
        1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW_OPAQUE

        ANDROID_SENSOR_INFO_SENSITIVITY_RANGE
        min = 54
        max = 1596

        ANDROID_SENSOR_MAX_ANALOG_SENSITIVITY
        1596

        ANDROID_SENSOR_INFO_EXPOSURE_TIME_RANGE
        min = 0ns
        max = 1318629735ns

        ====================================
        Stats for camera: 1

        ANDROID_SCALER_AVAILABLE_RAW_SIZES:
        These are likely supported by the sensor
        4056 x 3040
        3840 x 2160
        1920 x 1080
        1920 x 1080
        1920 x 1080
        1280 x 720
        1280 x 720

        ANDROID_SCALER_AVAILABLE_STREAM_CONFIGURATIONS:
        These are NOT necessarily supported by the sensor
        4056 x 3040 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        4056 x 3040 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        4000 x 3000 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        4000 x 3000 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        3840 x 2160 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        3840 x 2160 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        3264 x 2448 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        3264 x 2448 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        3200 x 2400 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        3200 x 2400 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        2976 x 2976 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        2976 x 2976 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        2688 x 1512 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        2688 x 1512 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        2592 x 1944 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        2592 x 1944 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        2048 x 1536 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        2048 x 1536 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        1920 x 1440 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        1920 x 1440 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        1928 x 1208 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        1928 x 1208 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        1920 x 1080 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        1920 x 1080 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        1600 x 1200 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        1600 x 1200 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        1440 x 1080 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        1440 x 1080 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        1280 x 960 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        1280 x 960 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        1280 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        1280 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        1280 x 720 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        1280 x 720 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        1080 x 1080 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        1080 x 1080 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        1024 x 738 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        1024 x 738 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        1024 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        1024 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        864 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        864 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        800 x 600 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        800 x 600 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        800 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        800 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        720 x 1280 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        720 x 1280 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        720 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        720 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        640 x 512 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        640 x 512 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        640 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        640 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        640 x 400 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        640 x 400 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        640 x 360 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        640 x 360 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        352 x 288 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        352 x 288 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        320 x 240 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        320 x 240 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        240 x 320 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        240 x 320 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        176 x 144 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        176 x 144 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        4056 x 3040 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW10
        4056 x 3040 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW12
        4056 x 3040 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW16
        4056 x 3040 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW_OPAQUE
        3840 x 2160 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW10
        3840 x 2160 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW12
        3840 x 2160 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW16
        3840 x 2160 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW_OPAQUE
        1920 x 1080 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW10
        1920 x 1080 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW12
        1920 x 1080 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW16
        1920 x 1080 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW_OPAQUE

        ANDROID_SENSOR_INFO_SENSITIVITY_RANGE
        min = 100
        max = 35200

        ANDROID_SENSOR_MAX_ANALOG_SENSITIVITY
        2200

        ANDROID_SENSOR_INFO_EXPOSURE_TIME_RANGE
        min = 0ns
        max = 243753000ns

        ====================================
        Stats for camera: 2

        ANDROID_SCALER_AVAILABLE_RAW_SIZES:
        These are likely supported by the sensor
        1280 x 800
        1280 x 800

        ANDROID_SCALER_AVAILABLE_STREAM_CONFIGURATIONS:
        These are NOT necessarily supported by the sensor
        1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        1280 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        1280 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        1280 x 720 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        1280 x 720 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        1024 x 738 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        1024 x 738 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        1024 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        1024 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        864 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        864 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        800 x 600 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        800 x 600 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        800 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        800 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        720 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        720 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        640 x 512 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        640 x 512 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        640 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        640 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        640 x 400 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        640 x 400 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        640 x 360 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        640 x 360 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        352 x 288 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        352 x 288 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        320 x 240 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        320 x 240 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        240 x 320 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        240 x 320 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        176 x 144 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        176 x 144 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW10
        1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW12
        1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW16
        1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW_OPAQUE

        ANDROID_SENSOR_INFO_SENSITIVITY_RANGE
        min = 54
        max = 1596

        ANDROID_SENSOR_MAX_ANALOG_SENSITIVITY
        1596

        ANDROID_SENSOR_INFO_EXPOSURE_TIME_RANGE
        min = 0ns
        max = 1318629735ns

        ====================================
        Stats for camera: 3

        ANDROID_SCALER_AVAILABLE_RAW_SIZES:
        These are likely supported by the sensor
        1280 x 800
        1280 x 800

        ANDROID_SCALER_AVAILABLE_STREAM_CONFIGURATIONS:
        These are NOT necessarily supported by the sensor
        1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        1280 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        1280 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        1280 x 720 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        1280 x 720 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        1024 x 738 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        1024 x 738 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        1024 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        1024 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        864 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        864 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        800 x 600 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        800 x 600 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        800 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        800 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        720 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        720 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        640 x 512 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        640 x 512 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        640 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        640 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        640 x 400 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        640 x 400 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        640 x 360 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        640 x 360 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        352 x 288 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        352 x 288 HAL_PIXEL_
        FORMAT_BLOB
        320 x 240 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        320 x 240 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        240 x 320 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        240 x 320 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        176 x 144 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
        176 x 144 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
        1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW10
        1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW12
        1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW16
        1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW_OPAQUE

        ANDROID_SENSOR_INFO_SENSITIVITY_RANGE
        min = 54
        max = 1596

        ANDROID_SENSOR_MAX_ANALOG_SENSITIVITY
        1596

        ANDROID_SENSOR_INFO_EXPOSURE_TIME_RANGE
        min = 0ns
        max = 1318629735ns

        ====================================
        Number of cameras detected: 4

        Alex KushleyevA 1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • Hector GutierrezH Hector Gutierrez

          @Alex-Kushleyev

          Thanks. The output of voxl-camera-server -l is shown below, but it seems generic. Several issues remain:

          • voxl-camera-server detected 4 cameras, but my drone has 5

          • when opening voxl portal, zero cameras are detected. Also, the IMU plotter runs but gives empty plots.

          Please let me know what to try next - it does seem like a hardware problem.

          Thanks - Regards, Hector

          voxl2:/$ voxl-camera-server -l
          DEBUG: Attempting to open the hal module
          DEBUG: SUCCESS: Camera module opened on attempt 0
          DEBUG: ----------- Number of cameras: 4
          DEBUG: Cam idx: 0, Cam slot: 0, Slave Address: 0x0030, Sensor Id: 0x0356
          DEBUG: Cam idx: 1, Cam slot: 1, Slave Address: 0x0034, Sensor Id: 0x0577
          DEBUG: Cam idx: 2, Cam slot: 2, Slave Address: 0x0030, Sensor Id: 0x0356
          DEBUG: Cam idx: 3, Cam slot: 6, Slave Address: 0x0030, Sensor Id: 0x0356
          DEBUG: Note: This list comes from the HAL module and may not be indicative
          DEBUG: of configurations that have full pipelines
          DEBUG: Number of cameras: 4

          Stats for camera: 0

          ANDROID_SCALER_AVAILABLE_RAW_SIZES:
          These are likely supported by the sensor
          1280 x 800
          1280 x 800
          ANDROID_SCALER_AVAILABLE_STREAM_CONFIGURATIONS:
          These are NOT necessarily supported by the sensor
          1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          1280 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          1280 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          1280 x 720 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          1280 x 720 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          1024 x 738 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          1024 x 738 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          1024 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          1024 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          864 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          864 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          800 x 600 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          800 x 600 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          800 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          800 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          720 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          720 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          640 x 512 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          640 x 512 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          640 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          640 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          640 x 400 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          640 x 400 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          640 x 360 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          640 x 360 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          352 x 288 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          352 x 288 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          320 x 240 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          320 x 240 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          240 x 320 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          240 x 320 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          176 x 144 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          176 x 144 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW10
          1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW12
          1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW16
          1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW_OPAQUE

          ANDROID_SENSOR_INFO_SENSITIVITY_RANGE
          min = 54
          max = 1596

          ANDROID_SENSOR_MAX_ANALOG_SENSITIVITY
          1596

          ANDROID_SENSOR_INFO_EXPOSURE_TIME_RANGE
          min = 0ns
          max = 1318629735ns

          ====================================
          Stats for camera: 1

          ANDROID_SCALER_AVAILABLE_RAW_SIZES:
          These are likely supported by the sensor
          4056 x 3040
          3840 x 2160
          1920 x 1080
          1920 x 1080
          1920 x 1080
          1280 x 720
          1280 x 720

          ANDROID_SCALER_AVAILABLE_STREAM_CONFIGURATIONS:
          These are NOT necessarily supported by the sensor
          4056 x 3040 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          4056 x 3040 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          4000 x 3000 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          4000 x 3000 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          3840 x 2160 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          3840 x 2160 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          3264 x 2448 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          3264 x 2448 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          3200 x 2400 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          3200 x 2400 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          2976 x 2976 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          2976 x 2976 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          2688 x 1512 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          2688 x 1512 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          2592 x 1944 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          2592 x 1944 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          2048 x 1536 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          2048 x 1536 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          1920 x 1440 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          1920 x 1440 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          1928 x 1208 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          1928 x 1208 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          1920 x 1080 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          1920 x 1080 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          1600 x 1200 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          1600 x 1200 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          1440 x 1080 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          1440 x 1080 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          1280 x 960 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          1280 x 960 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          1280 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          1280 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          1280 x 720 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          1280 x 720 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          1080 x 1080 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          1080 x 1080 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          1024 x 738 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          1024 x 738 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          1024 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          1024 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          864 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          864 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          800 x 600 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          800 x 600 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          800 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          800 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          720 x 1280 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          720 x 1280 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          720 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          720 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          640 x 512 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          640 x 512 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          640 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          640 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          640 x 400 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          640 x 400 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          640 x 360 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          640 x 360 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          352 x 288 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          352 x 288 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          320 x 240 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          320 x 240 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          240 x 320 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          240 x 320 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          176 x 144 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          176 x 144 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          4056 x 3040 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW10
          4056 x 3040 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW12
          4056 x 3040 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW16
          4056 x 3040 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW_OPAQUE
          3840 x 2160 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW10
          3840 x 2160 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW12
          3840 x 2160 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW16
          3840 x 2160 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW_OPAQUE
          1920 x 1080 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW10
          1920 x 1080 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW12
          1920 x 1080 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW16
          1920 x 1080 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW_OPAQUE

          ANDROID_SENSOR_INFO_SENSITIVITY_RANGE
          min = 100
          max = 35200

          ANDROID_SENSOR_MAX_ANALOG_SENSITIVITY
          2200

          ANDROID_SENSOR_INFO_EXPOSURE_TIME_RANGE
          min = 0ns
          max = 243753000ns

          ====================================
          Stats for camera: 2

          ANDROID_SCALER_AVAILABLE_RAW_SIZES:
          These are likely supported by the sensor
          1280 x 800
          1280 x 800

          ANDROID_SCALER_AVAILABLE_STREAM_CONFIGURATIONS:
          These are NOT necessarily supported by the sensor
          1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          1280 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          1280 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          1280 x 720 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          1280 x 720 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          1024 x 738 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          1024 x 738 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          1024 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          1024 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          864 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          864 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          800 x 600 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          800 x 600 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          800 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          800 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          720 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          720 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          640 x 512 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          640 x 512 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          640 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          640 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          640 x 400 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          640 x 400 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          640 x 360 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          640 x 360 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          352 x 288 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          352 x 288 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          320 x 240 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          320 x 240 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          240 x 320 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          240 x 320 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          176 x 144 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          176 x 144 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW10
          1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW12
          1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW16
          1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW_OPAQUE

          ANDROID_SENSOR_INFO_SENSITIVITY_RANGE
          min = 54
          max = 1596

          ANDROID_SENSOR_MAX_ANALOG_SENSITIVITY
          1596

          ANDROID_SENSOR_INFO_EXPOSURE_TIME_RANGE
          min = 0ns
          max = 1318629735ns

          ====================================
          Stats for camera: 3

          ANDROID_SCALER_AVAILABLE_RAW_SIZES:
          These are likely supported by the sensor
          1280 x 800
          1280 x 800

          ANDROID_SCALER_AVAILABLE_STREAM_CONFIGURATIONS:
          These are NOT necessarily supported by the sensor
          1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          1280 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          1280 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          1280 x 720 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          1280 x 720 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          1024 x 738 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          1024 x 738 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          1024 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          1024 x 768 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          864 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          864 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          800 x 600 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          800 x 600 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          800 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          800 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          720 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          720 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          640 x 512 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          640 x 512 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          640 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          640 x 480 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          640 x 400 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          640 x 400 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          640 x 360 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          640 x 360 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          352 x 288 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          352 x 288 HAL_PIXEL_
          FORMAT_BLOB
          320 x 240 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          320 x 240 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          240 x 320 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          240 x 320 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          176 x 144 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_YCbCr_420_888
          176 x 144 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_BLOB
          1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW10
          1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW12
          1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW16
          1280 x 800 HAL_PIXEL_FORMAT_RAW_OPAQUE

          ANDROID_SENSOR_INFO_SENSITIVITY_RANGE
          min = 54
          max = 1596

          ANDROID_SENSOR_MAX_ANALOG_SENSITIVITY
          1596

          ANDROID_SENSOR_INFO_EXPOSURE_TIME_RANGE
          min = 0ns
          max = 1318629735ns

          ====================================
          Number of cameras detected: 4

          Alex KushleyevA Offline
          Alex KushleyevA Offline
          Alex Kushleyev
          ModalAI Team
          wrote on last edited by
          #6

          @Hector-Gutierrez ,

          When you were looking for cameras in voxl-portal - was the voxl-camera-server actually running? you need to make sure that it's running (either as a background service, which normally starts up using systemd right after boot, or manually if you are running the camera server in a terminal in the foreground).

          It does look like the 3 AR0144 and 1 IMX412 were detected, so lets first make sure you can view those corresponding streams first.

          Alex

          Hector GutierrezH 1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • Alex KushleyevA Alex Kushleyev

            @Hector-Gutierrez ,

            When you were looking for cameras in voxl-portal - was the voxl-camera-server actually running? you need to make sure that it's running (either as a background service, which normally starts up using systemd right after boot, or manually if you are running the camera server in a terminal in the foreground).

            It does look like the 3 AR0144 and 1 IMX412 were detected, so lets first make sure you can view those corresponding streams first.

            Alex

            Hector GutierrezH Offline
            Hector GutierrezH Offline
            Hector Gutierrez
            Contributor
            wrote on last edited by
            #7

            @Alex-Kushleyev

            Yes, voxl-camera-server was running. In fact I stopped it and started it again to be sure it was running.
            I also checked with voxl-inspect-services and it showed the camera server was running. And yet I cannot open any of the cameras on voxl Portal - the portal starts properly but there are no cameras. And also the IMU plots look empty.
            And the ToF sensor is not being detected ...
            Please let me know what to try next.

            Thanks, Hector

            Alex KushleyevA 1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • Hector GutierrezH Hector Gutierrez

              @Alex-Kushleyev

              Yes, voxl-camera-server was running. In fact I stopped it and started it again to be sure it was running.
              I also checked with voxl-inspect-services and it showed the camera server was running. And yet I cannot open any of the cameras on voxl Portal - the portal starts properly but there are no cameras. And also the IMU plots look empty.
              And the ToF sensor is not being detected ...
              Please let me know what to try next.

              Thanks, Hector

              Alex KushleyevA Offline
              Alex KushleyevA Offline
              Alex Kushleyev
              ModalAI Team
              wrote on last edited by
              #8

              @Hector-Gutierrez , with the voxl-camera-server running on the foreground, please run the following and monitor the output of voxl-camera-server as well:

              voxl-inspect-cam -a
              

              This test should connect to ALL the camera streams generated by the voxl-camera-server and print out the stats.

              Alex

              Hector GutierrezH 1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • Alex KushleyevA Alex Kushleyev

                @Hector-Gutierrez , with the voxl-camera-server running on the foreground, please run the following and monitor the output of voxl-camera-server as well:

                voxl-inspect-cam -a
                

                This test should connect to ALL the camera streams generated by the voxl-camera-server and print out the stats.

                Alex

                Hector GutierrezH Offline
                Hector GutierrezH Offline
                Hector Gutierrez
                Contributor
                wrote on last edited by
                #9

                @Alex-Kushleyev
                Thanks for the prompt reply. I receive the following output:
                Pipe Name | bytes | wide | hgt |exp(ms)| gain | frame id |latency(ms)| fps | mbpt
                | hires_large_color |18495360 | 4056 | 3040 | 16.67 | 747 | 1880 | 93.2 | 30.0 | 44422
                | hires_large_encoded | 2064 | 4056 | 3040 | 16.67 | 747 | 1879 | 100.0 | 30.0 | 0
                | hires_large_grey |12330240 | 4056 | 3040 | 16.67 | 747 | 1880 | 72.2 | 30.0 | 29618
                | hires_small_color | 1179648 | 1024 | 768 | 16.67 | 747 | 1880 | 50.4 | 30.0 | 2832
                | hires_small_encoded | 256 | 1024 | 768 | 16.67 | 747 | 1880 | 61.6 | 30.0 | 0
                | hires_small_grey | 786432 | 1024 | 768 | 16.67 | 747 | 1881 | 48.4 | 30.0 | 1888
                | hires_snapshot |
                | ov_overlay | 3235840 | 1280 | 2528 | 6.81 | 614 | 1640 | 84.2 | 4.7 | 1228
                | tracking_down | 1024000 | 1280 | 800 | 6.90 | 614 | 1647 | 34.1 | 30.0 | 2458
                | tracking_down_bayer | 1024000 | 1280 | 800 | 6.90 | 614 | 1647 | 33.7 | 30.0 | 2458
                | tracking_down_misp_grey | 1024000 | 1280 | 800 | 6.73 | 570 | 1648 | 33.3 | 30.0 | 2458
                | tracking_down_misp_norm | 1024000 | 1280 | 800 | 6.73 | 570 | 1648 | 36.3 | 30.0 | 2458
                | tracking_front | 1024000 | 1280 | 800 | 5.63 | 307 | 1648 | 33.5 | 30.0 | 2458
                | tracking_front_bayer | 1024000 | 1280 | 800 | 5.63 | 307 | 1648 | 33.7 | 30.0 | 2458
                | tracking_front_misp_grey | 1024000 | 1280 | 800 | 5.63 | 307 | 1648 | 30.2 | 30.0 | 2458
                | tracking_front_misp_norm | 1024000 | 1280 | 800 | 5.63 | 307 | 1648 | 35.5 | 30.0 | 2458
                | tracking_rear | 1024000 | 1280 | 800 | 5.32 | 192 | 1649 | 33.9 | 30.0 | 2458
                | tracking_rear_bayer | 1024000 | 1280 | 800 | 5.32 | 192 | 1649 | 33.1 | 30.0 | 2458
                | tracking_rear_misp_grey | 1024000 | 1280 | 800 | 5.32 | 192 | 1649 | 31.5 | 30.0 | 2458
                | tracking_rear_misp_norm | 1024000 | 1280 | 800 | 5.32 | 192 | 1649 | 35.1 | 30.0 | 2458

                Still dont see the ToF sensor ... Please advise
                Thanks, Hector

                Alex KushleyevA 1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • Hector GutierrezH Hector Gutierrez

                  @Alex-Kushleyev
                  Thanks for the prompt reply. I receive the following output:
                  Pipe Name | bytes | wide | hgt |exp(ms)| gain | frame id |latency(ms)| fps | mbpt
                  | hires_large_color |18495360 | 4056 | 3040 | 16.67 | 747 | 1880 | 93.2 | 30.0 | 44422
                  | hires_large_encoded | 2064 | 4056 | 3040 | 16.67 | 747 | 1879 | 100.0 | 30.0 | 0
                  | hires_large_grey |12330240 | 4056 | 3040 | 16.67 | 747 | 1880 | 72.2 | 30.0 | 29618
                  | hires_small_color | 1179648 | 1024 | 768 | 16.67 | 747 | 1880 | 50.4 | 30.0 | 2832
                  | hires_small_encoded | 256 | 1024 | 768 | 16.67 | 747 | 1880 | 61.6 | 30.0 | 0
                  | hires_small_grey | 786432 | 1024 | 768 | 16.67 | 747 | 1881 | 48.4 | 30.0 | 1888
                  | hires_snapshot |
                  | ov_overlay | 3235840 | 1280 | 2528 | 6.81 | 614 | 1640 | 84.2 | 4.7 | 1228
                  | tracking_down | 1024000 | 1280 | 800 | 6.90 | 614 | 1647 | 34.1 | 30.0 | 2458
                  | tracking_down_bayer | 1024000 | 1280 | 800 | 6.90 | 614 | 1647 | 33.7 | 30.0 | 2458
                  | tracking_down_misp_grey | 1024000 | 1280 | 800 | 6.73 | 570 | 1648 | 33.3 | 30.0 | 2458
                  | tracking_down_misp_norm | 1024000 | 1280 | 800 | 6.73 | 570 | 1648 | 36.3 | 30.0 | 2458
                  | tracking_front | 1024000 | 1280 | 800 | 5.63 | 307 | 1648 | 33.5 | 30.0 | 2458
                  | tracking_front_bayer | 1024000 | 1280 | 800 | 5.63 | 307 | 1648 | 33.7 | 30.0 | 2458
                  | tracking_front_misp_grey | 1024000 | 1280 | 800 | 5.63 | 307 | 1648 | 30.2 | 30.0 | 2458
                  | tracking_front_misp_norm | 1024000 | 1280 | 800 | 5.63 | 307 | 1648 | 35.5 | 30.0 | 2458
                  | tracking_rear | 1024000 | 1280 | 800 | 5.32 | 192 | 1649 | 33.9 | 30.0 | 2458
                  | tracking_rear_bayer | 1024000 | 1280 | 800 | 5.32 | 192 | 1649 | 33.1 | 30.0 | 2458
                  | tracking_rear_misp_grey | 1024000 | 1280 | 800 | 5.32 | 192 | 1649 | 31.5 | 30.0 | 2458
                  | tracking_rear_misp_norm | 1024000 | 1280 | 800 | 5.32 | 192 | 1649 | 35.1 | 30.0 | 2458

                  Still dont see the ToF sensor ... Please advise
                  Thanks, Hector

                  Alex KushleyevA Offline
                  Alex KushleyevA Offline
                  Alex Kushleyev
                  ModalAI Team
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #10

                  @Hector-Gutierrez ,
                  OK, so it looks like that the 4 detected cameras are actually streaming data.

                  I am not sure why voxl-portal is not showing any cameras. When you access the voxl-portal via browser, do you see the actual portal (with green menu bar at the top), but no cameras are listed in the Cameras section?

                  How are you connected to the drone? (wifi, adb, etc).

                  Regarding the TOF sensor, since voxl-camera-server -l did not show that the TOF sensor is detected, the stream is not available.

                  Please double check that com.qti.sensormodule.irs2975c* file is in /usr/lib/camera/ directory - please provide the exact name or let me know if it's missing.

                  Also, can you please take a picture of your cameras plugged into the M0173 camera front end? I just want to make sure the TOF sensor is plugged in correctly.

                  Alex

                  Hector GutierrezH 1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • Alex KushleyevA Alex Kushleyev

                    @Hector-Gutierrez ,
                    OK, so it looks like that the 4 detected cameras are actually streaming data.

                    I am not sure why voxl-portal is not showing any cameras. When you access the voxl-portal via browser, do you see the actual portal (with green menu bar at the top), but no cameras are listed in the Cameras section?

                    How are you connected to the drone? (wifi, adb, etc).

                    Regarding the TOF sensor, since voxl-camera-server -l did not show that the TOF sensor is detected, the stream is not available.

                    Please double check that com.qti.sensormodule.irs2975c* file is in /usr/lib/camera/ directory - please provide the exact name or let me know if it's missing.

                    Also, can you please take a picture of your cameras plugged into the M0173 camera front end? I just want to make sure the TOF sensor is plugged in correctly.

                    Alex

                    Hector GutierrezH Offline
                    Hector GutierrezH Offline
                    Hector Gutierrez
                    Contributor
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #11

                    @Alex-Kushleyev
                    Hi Alex, I disassembled and reassembled the camera board and now I get 4 cameras in VOXL Portal ! I did reconnect the ToF sensor as well to the camera board, it seems properly connected.
                    The cameras working well are hires_large_color, and all three tracking cameras. I still dont see the ToF sensor , and the view of the hires camera is blurry (out of focus). The hires camera was recently replaced, so how to get it into focus is another question.
                    I listed the files on /usr/lib/camera and found this file: com.qti.sensormodule.irs2975c_3.bin
                    So now we are down to the ToF sensor (and to put the hires camera in focus). Let me know what to try next !
                    thanks, Hector

                    Alex KushleyevA Hector GutierrezH 2 Replies Last reply
                    0
                    • Hector GutierrezH Hector Gutierrez

                      @Alex-Kushleyev
                      Hi Alex, I disassembled and reassembled the camera board and now I get 4 cameras in VOXL Portal ! I did reconnect the ToF sensor as well to the camera board, it seems properly connected.
                      The cameras working well are hires_large_color, and all three tracking cameras. I still dont see the ToF sensor , and the view of the hires camera is blurry (out of focus). The hires camera was recently replaced, so how to get it into focus is another question.
                      I listed the files on /usr/lib/camera and found this file: com.qti.sensormodule.irs2975c_3.bin
                      So now we are down to the ToF sensor (and to put the hires camera in focus). Let me know what to try next !
                      thanks, Hector

                      Alex KushleyevA Offline
                      Alex KushleyevA Offline
                      Alex Kushleyev
                      ModalAI Team
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #12

                      @Hector-Gutierrez , in order to focus the hires camera (I am assuming IMX412), you can twist the lens in the M12 lens holder. Normally we do focus the hires cameras to a norminal focus distance, but maybe you had one from earlier batch which was not focused. Also, focus of the camera depends on the application, so it is recommended for users to double check and correct the focus for their needs. If there is some sealant on the threads, it is not permanent and can be removed using tweezers - loosening it up a bit should allow you to twist the lens inside the holder.

                      Regarding the PMD TOF, not sure yet. Has it worked before?

                      Alex

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • Hector GutierrezH Hector Gutierrez

                        @Alex-Kushleyev
                        Hi Alex, I disassembled and reassembled the camera board and now I get 4 cameras in VOXL Portal ! I did reconnect the ToF sensor as well to the camera board, it seems properly connected.
                        The cameras working well are hires_large_color, and all three tracking cameras. I still dont see the ToF sensor , and the view of the hires camera is blurry (out of focus). The hires camera was recently replaced, so how to get it into focus is another question.
                        I listed the files on /usr/lib/camera and found this file: com.qti.sensormodule.irs2975c_3.bin
                        So now we are down to the ToF sensor (and to put the hires camera in focus). Let me know what to try next !
                        thanks, Hector

                        Hector GutierrezH Offline
                        Hector GutierrezH Offline
                        Hector Gutierrez
                        Contributor
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #13

                        @Hector-Gutierrez
                        Hi Alex - As you suggested, the focus issue was resolved by twisting the lens until good focus at 3 m. was achieved.
                        The TOF sensor remains a problem. I've tried detaching and reconnecting its cable (on both ends) but no luck so far.
                        Both VOXL Portal and voxl-camera-server -l only see 4 cameras.
                        We didnt use the TOF sensor before so I didnt notice if it was working previously or not.
                        Please let me know what to try next - thanks, Hector

                        Alex KushleyevA 1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • Hector GutierrezH Hector Gutierrez

                          @Hector-Gutierrez
                          Hi Alex - As you suggested, the focus issue was resolved by twisting the lens until good focus at 3 m. was achieved.
                          The TOF sensor remains a problem. I've tried detaching and reconnecting its cable (on both ends) but no luck so far.
                          Both VOXL Portal and voxl-camera-server -l only see 4 cameras.
                          We didnt use the TOF sensor before so I didnt notice if it was working previously or not.
                          Please let me know what to try next - thanks, Hector

                          Alex KushleyevA Offline
                          Alex KushleyevA Offline
                          Alex Kushleyev
                          ModalAI Team
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #14

                          @Hector-Gutierrez , can you please send a picture of the TOF sensor connected to M0173? Just to make sure the connections are correct.

                          Hector GutierrezH 1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • Alex KushleyevA Alex Kushleyev

                            @Hector-Gutierrez , can you please send a picture of the TOF sensor connected to M0173? Just to make sure the connections are correct.

                            Hector GutierrezH Offline
                            Hector GutierrezH Offline
                            Hector Gutierrez
                            Contributor
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #15

                            @Alex-Kushleyev
                            Hi Alex - attached are some pictures of the connection. Something odd is happening. The connector engages its socket in two different locations relative to the hole for the screw. In the centered location (where it should be!) the TOF sensor causes a power short and the drone wont boot (see picture with red LED). In the off-center location there is no short and the drone boots, but I only get 4 cameras and the TOF is not visible.
                            ![centered.jpg](Request Entity Too Large) ![off-center1.jpg](Request Entity Too Large) ![off-center2.jpg](Request Entity Too Large) ![power-short.jpg](Request Entity Too Large)

                            Hector GutierrezH 1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • Hector GutierrezH Hector Gutierrez

                              @Alex-Kushleyev
                              Hi Alex - attached are some pictures of the connection. Something odd is happening. The connector engages its socket in two different locations relative to the hole for the screw. In the centered location (where it should be!) the TOF sensor causes a power short and the drone wont boot (see picture with red LED). In the off-center location there is no short and the drone boots, but I only get 4 cameras and the TOF is not visible.
                              ![centered.jpg](Request Entity Too Large) ![off-center1.jpg](Request Entity Too Large) ![off-center2.jpg](Request Entity Too Large) ![power-short.jpg](Request Entity Too Large)

                              Hector GutierrezH Offline
                              Hector GutierrezH Offline
                              Hector Gutierrez
                              Contributor
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #16

                              @Hector-Gutierrez
                              Download link for the pictures in case they did not attach to previous message:
                              https://quickconnect.to/asapstorage/d/s/13iMi9oRZUxhkQYoW2DCHtZ7nI9HgYJx/bj3PLF8EXd5pKdKgwphVqcbD7VaaMBQX-V7WAgk58WAw

                              Hector GutierrezH 1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • Hector GutierrezH Hector Gutierrez

                                @Hector-Gutierrez
                                Download link for the pictures in case they did not attach to previous message:
                                https://quickconnect.to/asapstorage/d/s/13iMi9oRZUxhkQYoW2DCHtZ7nI9HgYJx/bj3PLF8EXd5pKdKgwphVqcbD7VaaMBQX-V7WAgk58WAw

                                Hector GutierrezH Offline
                                Hector GutierrezH Offline
                                Hector Gutierrez
                                Contributor
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #17

                                @Hector-Gutierrez
                                Update from my previous post. I install the TOF connector in the centered location and fully attach the screws (including the one that secures the TOF ribbon cable). There is no short, the drone start normally, and I get 4 cameras on VOXL portal, but no TOF. Also voxl-camera-server -l only see 4 cameras. So TOF connection is definitely Ok, but sensor not present.

                                Alex KushleyevA 1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • Hector GutierrezH Hector Gutierrez

                                  @Hector-Gutierrez
                                  Update from my previous post. I install the TOF connector in the centered location and fully attach the screws (including the one that secures the TOF ribbon cable). There is no short, the drone start normally, and I get 4 cameras on VOXL portal, but no TOF. Also voxl-camera-server -l only see 4 cameras. So TOF connection is definitely Ok, but sensor not present.

                                  Alex KushleyevA Offline
                                  Alex KushleyevA Offline
                                  Alex Kushleyev
                                  ModalAI Team
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #18

                                  @Hector-Gutierrez , I am sorry, i was not able to access the image you shared. Can you please just resize / crop the image so that it fits into the forum? Just please make sure the details are still easy to see.

                                  Thank you!

                                  Alex

                                  Hector GutierrezH 2 Replies Last reply
                                  0
                                  • Alex KushleyevA Alex Kushleyev

                                    @Hector-Gutierrez , I am sorry, i was not able to access the image you shared. Can you please just resize / crop the image so that it fits into the forum? Just please make sure the details are still easy to see.

                                    Thank you!

                                    Alex

                                    Hector GutierrezH Offline
                                    Hector GutierrezH Offline
                                    Hector Gutierrez
                                    Contributor
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #19

                                    @Alex-Kushleyev
                                    Hi Alex - attached are the pictures. centered.jpg off-center1.jpg

                                    After installing the TOF connector in the centered location and fully attach all the screws (including the one that secures the TOF ribbon cable), there is no short and the drone starts normally. I get 4 cameras on VOXL portal, but no TOF. Also voxl-camera-server -l only see 4 cameras. So TOF connection seems definitely Ok, but sensor not present. Seems to me like a bad TOF sensor - let me know your thoughts.

                                    Hector GutierrezH 1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • Hector GutierrezH Hector Gutierrez

                                      @Alex-Kushleyev
                                      Hi Alex - attached are the pictures. centered.jpg off-center1.jpg

                                      After installing the TOF connector in the centered location and fully attach all the screws (including the one that secures the TOF ribbon cable), there is no short and the drone starts normally. I get 4 cameras on VOXL portal, but no TOF. Also voxl-camera-server -l only see 4 cameras. So TOF connection seems definitely Ok, but sensor not present. Seems to me like a bad TOF sensor - let me know your thoughts.

                                      Hector GutierrezH Offline
                                      Hector GutierrezH Offline
                                      Hector Gutierrez
                                      Contributor
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #20

                                      @Hector-Gutierrez Clarification on the pictures. The top picture is the centered position of the TOF ribbon cable. The bottom picture can be disregarded. The connection is done on the centered position (top picture). Thanks.

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • Alex KushleyevA Alex Kushleyev

                                        @Hector-Gutierrez , I am sorry, i was not able to access the image you shared. Can you please just resize / crop the image so that it fits into the forum? Just please make sure the details are still easy to see.

                                        Thank you!

                                        Alex

                                        Hector GutierrezH Offline
                                        Hector GutierrezH Offline
                                        Hector Gutierrez
                                        Contributor
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #21

                                        @Alex-Kushleyev - Any updates on this thread ? Let me know if there is anything else I could try or if you consider this a hardware problem with the PMD sensor itself. Thanks, Hector

                                        Alex KushleyevA 1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • Hector GutierrezH Hector Gutierrez

                                          @Alex-Kushleyev - Any updates on this thread ? Let me know if there is anything else I could try or if you consider this a hardware problem with the PMD sensor itself. Thanks, Hector

                                          Alex KushleyevA Offline
                                          Alex KushleyevA Offline
                                          Alex Kushleyev
                                          ModalAI Team
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #22

                                          @Hector-Gutierrez , sorry about the delay.. Before submitting RMA (i will provide instructions), can you please share the output of dmesg after you run voxl-camera-server -l ? this will let me confirm that there is an attempt to ping the TOF sensor and it fails. You could save the output of dmesg into a text file and share it or paste it here.

                                          A successful dmesg output should look something like this (this is from a Starling 2 Max), which has an extra IMX412 camera:

                                          [ 1712.362675] CAM_ERR: CAM-MEM: cam_mem_mgr_create_debug_fs: 126 failed to create dentry
                                          [ 1712.383711] CAM_INFO: CAM-HFI: cam_hfi_init: 878 Init IO1 : [0x10c00000 0xcf300000] IO2 [0xe0200000 0x1ed00000]
                                          [ 1712.393864] CAM_INFO: CAM-ICP: cam_icp_mgr_process_dbg_buf: 2572 FW_DBG:CICP_FW_E : HFI  :QC_IMAGE_VERSION_STRING=CICP.FW.1.0-00079,OEM_IMAGE_VERSION_STRING=CRM,BUILD_TIME: Oct 17 2019 05:49:19,CACHE_ENABLED at icphostinterface.c:636 QC_IMAGE_VERSION_STRING=CICP.FW.1.0-00079 OEM_IMAGE_VERSION_STRING=CRM
                                          [ 1712.393868] CAM_INFO: CAM-ICP: cam_icp_mgr_process_dbg_buf: 2572 FW_DBG:CICP_FW_E : HFI  :ELF variant: CACHE-ENABLED:T480:API_V2:USE_CDM_1_1: , API version: 0x2000049 at icphostinterface.c:637 QC_IMAGE_VERSION_STRING=CICP.FW.1.0-00079 OEM_IMAGE_VERSION_STRING=CRM
                                          [ 1712.393916] CAM_INFO: CAM-ICP: cam_icp_mgr_hw_open: 3879 FW download done successfully
                                          [ 1712.470777] qcom,camera ac4f000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor0: Linked as a consumer to regulator.58
                                          [ 1712.472096] qcom,camera ac4f000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor0: Linked as a consumer to regulator.56
                                          [ 1712.474369] qcom,camera ac4f000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor0: Linked as a consumer to regulator.60
                                          [ 1712.474408] qcom,camera ac4f000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor0: Linked as a consumer to regulator.79
                                          [ 1712.498846] CAM_INFO: CAM-SENSOR: cam_sensor_driver_cmd: 918 Probe success,slot:0,slave_addr:0x30,sensor_id:0x356
                                          [ 1712.498997] qcom,camera ac4f000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor0: Dropping the link to regulator.79
                                          [ 1712.502731] qcom,camera ac4f000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor0: Dropping the link to regulator.60
                                          [ 1712.502868] qcom,camera ac4f000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor0: Dropping the link to regulator.56
                                          [ 1712.502981] qcom,camera ac4f000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor0: Dropping the link to regulator.58
                                          [ 1712.526976] qcom,camera ac4f000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor1: Linked as a consumer to regulator.58
                                          [ 1712.527116] qcom,camera ac4f000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor1: Linked as a consumer to regulator.60
                                          [ 1712.527175] qcom,camera ac4f000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor1: Linked as a consumer to regulator.56
                                          [ 1712.527326] qcom,camera ac4f000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor1: Linked as a consumer to regulator.79
                                          [ 1712.541852] CAM_INFO: CAM-SENSOR: cam_sensor_driver_cmd: 918 Probe success,slot:1,slave_addr:0x34,sensor_id:0x577
                                          [ 1712.541967] qcom,camera ac4f000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor1: Dropping the link to regulator.79
                                          [ 1712.543257] qcom,camera ac4f000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor1: Dropping the link to regulator.56
                                          [ 1712.543316] qcom,camera ac4f000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor1: Dropping the link to regulator.60
                                          [ 1712.543392] qcom,camera ac4f000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor1: Dropping the link to regulator.58
                                          [ 1712.561608] qcom,camera ac50000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor3: Linked as a consumer to regulator.60
                                          [ 1712.563718] qcom,camera ac50000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor3: Linked as a consumer to regulator.59
                                          [ 1712.565875] qcom,camera ac50000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor3: Linked as a consumer to regulator.55
                                          [ 1712.567770] qcom,camera ac50000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor3: Linked as a consumer to regulator.79
                                          [ 1712.575483] CAM_INFO: CAM-SENSOR: cam_sensor_driver_cmd: 918 Probe success,slot:3,slave_addr:0x7a,sensor_id:0x2975
                                          [ 1712.577616] qcom,camera ac50000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor3: Dropping the link to regulator.79
                                          [ 1712.579717] qcom,camera ac50000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor3: Dropping the link to regulator.55
                                          [ 1712.579758] qcom,camera ac50000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor3: Dropping the link to regulator.60
                                          [ 1712.579812] qcom,camera ac50000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor3: Dropping the link to regulator.59
                                          [ 1712.604128] qcom,camera ac4f000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor6: Linked as a consumer to regulator.58
                                          [ 1712.606318] qcom,camera ac4f000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor6: Linked as a consumer to regulator.56
                                          [ 1712.608394] qcom,camera ac4f000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor6: Linked as a consumer to regulator.60
                                          [ 1712.608473] qcom,camera ac4f000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor6: Linked as a consumer to regulator.79
                                          [ 1712.631999] CAM_INFO: CAM-SENSOR: cam_sensor_driver_cmd: 918 Probe success,slot:6,slave_addr:0x30,sensor_id:0x356
                                          [ 1712.632517] qcom,camera ac4f000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor6: Dropping the link to regulator.79
                                          [ 1712.636492] qcom,camera ac4f000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor6: Dropping the link to regulator.60
                                          [ 1712.636595] qcom,camera ac4f000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor6: Dropping the link to regulator.56
                                          [ 1712.636686] qcom,camera ac4f000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor6: Dropping the link to regulator.58
                                          [ 1712.662182] qcom,camera ac50000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor2: Linked as a consumer to regulator.59
                                          [ 1712.662338] qcom,camera ac50000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor2: Linked as a consumer to regulator.60
                                          [ 1712.662399] qcom,camera ac50000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor2: Linked as a consumer to regulator.56
                                          [ 1712.662543] qcom,camera ac50000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor2: Linked as a consumer to regulator.79
                                          [ 1712.677605] CAM_INFO: CAM-SENSOR: cam_sensor_driver_cmd: 918 Probe success,slot:2,slave_addr:0x34,sensor_id:0x577
                                          [ 1712.677728] qcom,camera ac50000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor2: Dropping the link to regulator.79
                                          [ 1712.679699] qcom,camera ac50000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor2: Dropping the link to regulator.56
                                          [ 1712.679736] qcom,camera ac50000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor2: Dropping the link to regulator.60
                                          [ 1712.679789] qcom,camera ac50000.qcom,cci:qcom,cam-sensor2: Dropping the link to regulator.59
                                          [ 1712.739998] CAM_WARN: CAM-CRM: cam_req_mgr_close: 160 release invoked associated userspace process has died
                                          

                                          Specifically, the following line says that the TOF sensor has been probed successfully:

                                          [ 1712.575483] CAM_INFO: CAM-SENSOR: cam_sensor_driver_cmd: 918 Probe success,slot:3,slave_addr:0x7a,sensor_id:0x2975
                                          

                                          If the probe fails, you would see some CCI errors. If you do not see anything related to slave address 0x7a , the the sensor is not being probed and the issue is on the SW configuration side, which we can investigate further.

                                          Alex

                                          Hector GutierrezH 2 Replies Last reply
                                          0

                                          Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.

                                          Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.

                                          With your input, this post could be even better 💗

                                          Register Login
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          ModalAI
                                          Categories Recent Tags ModalAI.com Docs
                                          © 2026 ModalAI® · Accelerating autonomy for smaller, smarter, safer drones · Powered by NodeBB
                                          • Login

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Tags
                                          • Popular
                                          • Users
                                          • Groups