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UAV climbs out of control in POSITION mode (All QVIO sensors successfully calibrated)

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    @rdjarvis was the camera orientation changed? That does not look like the standard C11 orientation

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    @Moderator Yes, as per ModalAI documentation, is says putting the camera in a vertical plane is ideal for indoor only operations.

    We modified camera t wrt body from 45 to 0 for the vertical placement of camera.

    UAV had identical unstable flight before this value and camera position was modified.

    screenshot_2024-05-17_145240.png

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    • rdjarvisR rdjarvis

      @Moderator Yes, as per ModalAI documentation, is says putting the camera in a vertical plane is ideal for indoor only operations.

      We modified camera t wrt body from 45 to 0 for the vertical placement of camera.

      UAV had identical unstable flight before this value and camera position was modified.

      screenshot_2024-05-17_145240.png

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      @rdjarvis ,

      the RPY between imu_apps and tracking frames is not correct. Please review the following documentation : https://docs.modalai.com/configure-extrinsics/

      The IMU has z axis "into the pcb" = down, if you look at the VOXL2 board from top. You have specified rotation 0,0,90, which is just yaw 90 degrees (around z axis). However, the camera is looking straight out, which means the camera's Z axis is where IMU's X axis is.

      The RPY should be 0, 90, 90 - please make sure you understand how to calculate it based on the documentation. Let me know if that fixes your issue.

      Regarding VIO initialization, it is a bit tricky. When the vehicle initially is not moving, there is no way for VIO to initialize scale (disatance) of all the features for monocular VIO. In order to fully initialize, VIO needs to start moving. Also only when it starts moving, if there are errors in reference frames, they will result in inconsistencies within VIO and it will blow up.

      When vio reports quality and features before you start moving, it can be a bit misleading -- VIO is only using partial information to report its state. But it needs to report some "good news", otherwise you would not even take off until your VIO has converged (chicken and egg problem - you need VIO to be converged before you take off, but in order to for vio to converge, it needs to take off..). So, vio evaluates initial quality based on the availability of features that are being tracked without fully localizing them until there is sufficient motion.

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      • Alex KushleyevA Alex Kushleyev

        @rdjarvis ,

        the RPY between imu_apps and tracking frames is not correct. Please review the following documentation : https://docs.modalai.com/configure-extrinsics/

        The IMU has z axis "into the pcb" = down, if you look at the VOXL2 board from top. You have specified rotation 0,0,90, which is just yaw 90 degrees (around z axis). However, the camera is looking straight out, which means the camera's Z axis is where IMU's X axis is.

        The RPY should be 0, 90, 90 - please make sure you understand how to calculate it based on the documentation. Let me know if that fixes your issue.

        Regarding VIO initialization, it is a bit tricky. When the vehicle initially is not moving, there is no way for VIO to initialize scale (disatance) of all the features for monocular VIO. In order to fully initialize, VIO needs to start moving. Also only when it starts moving, if there are errors in reference frames, they will result in inconsistencies within VIO and it will blow up.

        When vio reports quality and features before you start moving, it can be a bit misleading -- VIO is only using partial information to report its state. But it needs to report some "good news", otherwise you would not even take off until your VIO has converged (chicken and egg problem - you need VIO to be converged before you take off, but in order to for vio to converge, it needs to take off..). So, vio evaluates initial quality based on the availability of features that are being tracked without fully localizing them until there is sufficient motion.

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        @Alex-Kushleyev

        Thank you for explaining this. We will review, test and get back to you.

        Thanks again,
        RDJ

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        • Alex KushleyevA Alex Kushleyev

          @rdjarvis ,

          the RPY between imu_apps and tracking frames is not correct. Please review the following documentation : https://docs.modalai.com/configure-extrinsics/

          The IMU has z axis "into the pcb" = down, if you look at the VOXL2 board from top. You have specified rotation 0,0,90, which is just yaw 90 degrees (around z axis). However, the camera is looking straight out, which means the camera's Z axis is where IMU's X axis is.

          The RPY should be 0, 90, 90 - please make sure you understand how to calculate it based on the documentation. Let me know if that fixes your issue.

          Regarding VIO initialization, it is a bit tricky. When the vehicle initially is not moving, there is no way for VIO to initialize scale (disatance) of all the features for monocular VIO. In order to fully initialize, VIO needs to start moving. Also only when it starts moving, if there are errors in reference frames, they will result in inconsistencies within VIO and it will blow up.

          When vio reports quality and features before you start moving, it can be a bit misleading -- VIO is only using partial information to report its state. But it needs to report some "good news", otherwise you would not even take off until your VIO has converged (chicken and egg problem - you need VIO to be converged before you take off, but in order to for vio to converge, it needs to take off..). So, vio evaluates initial quality based on the availability of features that are being tracked without fully localizing them until there is sufficient motion.

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          @Alex-Kushleyev You are correct. After reviewing, studying and having a better understanding of the relationship between imu_apps and tracking we have achieved stable indoor flight in POSTION with QVIO.

          Thank you for all you have done!
          RDJ

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          • rdjarvisR rdjarvis

            @Alex-Kushleyev You are correct. After reviewing, studying and having a better understanding of the relationship between imu_apps and tracking we have achieved stable indoor flight in POSTION with QVIO.

            Thank you for all you have done!
            RDJ

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            ModalAI Team
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            @rdjarvis , very good! I am glad you got it working.

            Alex

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            • Alex KushleyevA Alex Kushleyev

              @rdjarvis , very good! I am glad you got it working.

              Alex

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              @Alex-Kushleyev After logging 10 flights indoors/position we've noticed the Camera server is running at 100+%, and VIO around 30-40%. We disabled front and rear stereo for troubling shooting the tracking camera. Camera server dropped to 30-40% while running, but flight still tends to be erratic, but not uncontrollable.

              Flight in Altitude and Manual are great, and honestly rather enjoyable.

              Where should we start to optimize the tracking camera/VIO to keep dialing this in?

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              • Alex KushleyevA Alex Kushleyev

                @rdjarvis , very good! I am glad you got it working.

                Alex

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                @Alex-Kushleyev When the UAV is stationary on the deck, looking at the same objects the VIO quality fluctuates, randomly from 0-100%. Occasionally (bad camera calibration/Not stationary/no position estimate) errors are sent. Is this a result of the camera server being overloaded, or are there any other issues we can investigate?

                Thanks,
                RDJ

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                • rdjarvisR rdjarvis

                  @Alex-Kushleyev When the UAV is stationary on the deck, looking at the same objects the VIO quality fluctuates, randomly from 0-100%. Occasionally (bad camera calibration/Not stationary/no position estimate) errors are sent. Is this a result of the camera server being overloaded, or are there any other issues we can investigate?

                  Thanks,
                  RDJ

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                  Alex Kushleyev
                  ModalAI Team
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                  @rdjarvis , the cpu (by default) will run in auto mode, meaning it will slow down under light load. Can you try to set the cpu to performance mode using voxl-set-cpu-mode perf and see if your performance inproves?

                  For front and rear stereo, which outputs for those cameras do you use? The code does debayering to mono and color for each camera, so disabling unneeded debayering can help.

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                  • Alex KushleyevA Alex Kushleyev

                    @rdjarvis , the cpu (by default) will run in auto mode, meaning it will slow down under light load. Can you try to set the cpu to performance mode using voxl-set-cpu-mode perf and see if your performance inproves?

                    For front and rear stereo, which outputs for those cameras do you use? The code does debayering to mono and color for each camera, so disabling unneeded debayering can help.

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                    @Alex-Kushleyev As always, thanks Alex. I will plug away at it today and get back to you.

                    FYI FPV 4n1 ESC will be sent to you this week so you can evaluate when you get the time.

                    THanks,
                    RDJ

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                    • rdjarvisR rdjarvis

                      @Alex-Kushleyev As always, thanks Alex. I will plug away at it today and get back to you.

                      FYI FPV 4n1 ESC will be sent to you this week so you can evaluate when you get the time.

                      THanks,
                      RDJ

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                      @Alex-Kushleyev

                      We applied the changed to the CPU and that seems to be working slightly better. The drone no longer climbs out of control and seems to maintain VIO with between 20-45%, however, the drone continuously goes nose down and to the left like the front left motor is not working hard enough.

                      steps we have taken include calibrating level and doing an accelerometer calibration as well; however, the issue still persists.
                      We have recalibrated the cameras as well and double checked our extrinsic values to make sure those are correct as well.
                      we have double checked the weight and balance of the drone as well and these are not causing the issue in our opinion.

                      what are other steps we can take to try and correct this issue?

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                      • Stefan AmundarainS Stefan Amundarain

                        @Alex-Kushleyev

                        We applied the changed to the CPU and that seems to be working slightly better. The drone no longer climbs out of control and seems to maintain VIO with between 20-45%, however, the drone continuously goes nose down and to the left like the front left motor is not working hard enough.

                        steps we have taken include calibrating level and doing an accelerometer calibration as well; however, the issue still persists.
                        We have recalibrated the cameras as well and double checked our extrinsic values to make sure those are correct as well.
                        we have double checked the weight and balance of the drone as well and these are not causing the issue in our opinion.

                        what are other steps we can take to try and correct this issue?

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                        @Stefan-Amundarain what do the flight logs tell you?

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