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PX4 -> QGC connection through USB for VOXL2

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  • Alex KushleyevA Alex Kushleyev

    @bendraper , If you see an ethernet connection to VOXL2 show up on your Windows host, then the usb gadget is properly configured on VOXL2. Perhaps something else is going on. Are you assigning a static ip on your host that is on the same subnet as VOXL2?

    You should try to repeat the same test on a linux machine (or virtual machine) to see if you can get a working connection.

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    @Alex-Kushleyev Yea I can get a connection on a linux machine with no issue. I do need to get it working on a Windows machine for my purposes though. I definitely have the static IP setup correctly. I tried populating the gateway and also not populating it. I confirmed in powershell that there is indeed a route present for that traffic, but they do not want to communicate with each other. Some quick research seems to suggest Windows is very finicky with the CDC NCM protocol and it is more suited to work with an RNDIS interface. Were you able to ping/ssh to a voxl via an ethernet interface on the usb-c port to a windows machine using just the commands you listed above in this post?

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      @Alex-Kushleyev Yea I can get a connection on a linux machine with no issue. I do need to get it working on a Windows machine for my purposes though. I definitely have the static IP setup correctly. I tried populating the gateway and also not populating it. I confirmed in powershell that there is indeed a route present for that traffic, but they do not want to communicate with each other. Some quick research seems to suggest Windows is very finicky with the CDC NCM protocol and it is more suited to work with an RNDIS interface. Were you able to ping/ssh to a voxl via an ethernet interface on the usb-c port to a windows machine using just the commands you listed above in this post?

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      @bendraper , I just tried this on a Windows 11 VM and even though i was able to see a network device appear in the VM and i configured the IPv4 properties, I cannot ping or ssh. It seems consistent with what you are seeing.

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        @bendraper , I just tried this on a Windows 11 VM and even though i was able to see a network device appear in the VM and i configured the IPv4 properties, I cannot ping or ssh. It seems consistent with what you are seeing.

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        @Alex-Kushleyev It looks like someone on the forums maybe had success setting up the interface as an RNDIS gadget. I'll try to mess with it some more but let me know if you find a solution. Thanks!

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          @Alex-Kushleyev It looks like someone on the forums maybe had success setting up the interface as an RNDIS gadget. I'll try to mess with it some more but let me know if you find a solution. Thanks!

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          @bendraper , I will ask around.

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            @bendraper , I will ask around.

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            @Alex-Kushleyev So I can see a gadget functionality called gsi.rndis (I'd expect something called rndis.0 or something but maybe that is irrelevant) but when I change the line in /sbin/usb/compositions/901D to use gsi.rndis instead of ncm.0, my network interface on windows disappears and I can no longer ADB. I'd imagine there's something at the kernal level that doesn't like that but I'm out of my wheelhouse there. Setting it back to ncm.0 returns to the previous state but still cannot ping. Wireshark doesn't even see anything happening over that interface

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              Hi All - gonna spend a bit of time looking into this today so I can get some context on the problem.

              Zach

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                  • Alex KushleyevA Alex Kushleyev

                    @Sarika-Sharma ,

                    We discussed this internally and we will make an effort to formalize enabling the instructions (in a script) in the near future, but there is a relatively short way of enabling TCP/IP communication between VOXL2 and a QGC host. Please try these instructions and let us know if that works for you or what issue you run in to.

                    Basically, there is a command to enable the usb gadget in the kernel and this creates the network interface which you then have to configure on both sides. You can change the IP range if necessary.

                    Alex

                    # VOXL2 Setup
                    # Begin by configuring the usb gadget
                    sed -i '/ln -s functions\/ffs.adb configs\/c.1\/f2/a \ ln -s functions\/ncm.0 configs\/c.1\/f3 2>\/dev\/null | true' /sbin/usb/compositions/901D
                    
                    # Next setup a udev rule to give our NCM device a static IP (192.168.7.2)
                    echo 'ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="net", KERNEL=="usb0", RUN+="/bin/sh -c '"'"'sleep 2; /sbin/ifconfig usb0 192.168.7.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 up'"'"'"' > /etc/udev/rules.d/80-usb-ncm.rules
                    
                    # Reboot VOXL2
                    
                    # Check usb0 network device
                    voxl2:/$ ifconfig usb0
                    usb0: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST>  mtu 1500
                            inet 192.168.7.2  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast 192.168.7.255
                            inet6 fe80::935f:1a09:ab1d:d2fb  prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x20<link>
                            ether 56:77:2d:6c:84:9b  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
                            RX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
                            RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
                            TX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
                            TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
                    
                    
                    # Host Side Configuration
                    - note that a network manager may rename the device from usb0 to something else..
                    
                    ifconfig usb0
                    usb0: flags=4098<BROADCAST,MULTICAST>  mtu 1500
                            ether fa:74:5a:f3:2b:88  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
                            RX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
                            RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
                            TX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
                            TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
                    
                    #bring up the interface and set it to static ip
                    sudo ip addr add 192.168.7.1/24 dev usb0 
                    sudo ip link set usb0 up
                    
                    # Can also use Network manager to configure the network interface for a static configuration
                    - address 192.168.7.1
                    - netmask 255.255.255.0
                    - gateway 192.168.7.1
                    
                    # ping VOXL2 from linux host
                    - ping 192.168.7.2
                    
                    #set up QGC
                    - use ip address:port : 192.168.7.2:14550
                    
                    You can also use other network tools like ssh, etc, to communicate to the host, but this setup does not enable you to communicate from VOXL2 to outside world (using NAT to enable internet access via the host)
                    
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                    @Alex-Kushleyev
                    That's not perfect but I created a shell script based on https://docs.modalai.com/qgc-via-adb/ for the drone configuraiton.
                    For my PC configuration, I created an udev rule to force an interface name since usb0 is renamed in "enx******". My udev rule can only work with my drone (I think). To define IP address, I add a conf file in /etc/systemd/network/
                    I have only tested on my linux and it works perfectly :

                    #!/usr/bin/env bash
                    set -euo pipefail
                    
                    # See ModalAI doc : https://docs.modalai.com/qgc-via-adb/
                    
                    UDEV_RULE_DRONE="/etc/udev/rules.d/80-usb-ncm.rules"
                    UDEV_RULE_PC="/etc/udev/rules.d/99-voxl-usb-ncm.rules"
                    SYSTEMD_CONF_PC="/etc/systemd/network/10-voxl0.network"
                    
                    USB_COMP_QUALCOM="/sbin/usb/compositions/901D"
                    
                    # Network configuration
                    USB_IFACE="usb0"
                    USB_NET="192.168.7.0/24"
                    PC_IP="192.168.7.1"
                    DRONE_IP="192.168.7.2"
                    NM_CONN_NAME="voxl-usb-ncm"
                    
                    show_help() {
                        echo "Usage: $0 [--pc] [--drone] [--uninstall]"
                        echo
                        echo "Enable USB NCM networking for ModalAI VOXL / Starling 2 Max"
                        echo
                        echo "Options:"
                        echo "  --pc         Configure host PC only"
                        echo "  --drone      Configure drone via adb only"
                        echo "  --uninstall  Remove configuration"
                        echo "  --help       Show this help"
                        echo
                        echo "Defaults: if neither --pc nor --drone is provided, both are processed."
                    }
                    
                    do_pc_install() {
                        echo "[INFO][PC] Installing udev rule for VOXL USB NCM"
                    
                        cat > "$UDEV_RULE_PC" <<EOF
                    SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", ATTRS{idVendor}=="05c6", ATTRS{idProduct}=="901d", ATTRS{serial}=="890d035c", NAME="voxl0"
                    EOF
                    
                        echo "[INFO][PC] Creating systemd-networkd config for voxl0"
                    
                        cat > "$SYSTEMD_CONF_PC" <<EOF
                    [Match]
                    Name=voxl0
                    
                    [Network]
                    Address=${PC_IP}/24
                    LinkLocalAddressing=no
                    IPv6AcceptRA=no
                    EOF
                    
                        echo "[INFO][PC] Reloading udev rules"
                        udevadm control --reload-rules
                        udevadm trigger
                    
                        echo "[INFO][PC] Restarting systemd-networkd"
                        systemctl restart systemd-networkd
                    
                        echo "[INFO][PC] PC installation complete"
                    }
                    
                    do_pc_uninstall() {
                        echo "[INFO][PC] Removing PC configuration"
                    
                        if [ -f "$UDEV_RULE_PC" ]; then
                          rm -f "$UDEV_RULE_PC"
                          echo "[INFO][PC] Removed udev rule"
                        fi
                    
                        if [ -f "$SYSTEMD_CONF_PC" ]; then
                          rm -f "$SYSTEMD_CONF_PC"
                          echo "[INFO][PC] Removed systemd-networkd config"
                        fi
                    
                        echo "[INFO][PC] Reloading udev rules"
                        udevadm control --reload-rules
                        udevadm trigger
                    
                        echo "[INFO][PC] Restarting systemd-networkd"
                        systemctl restart systemd-networkd
                    
                        echo "[INFO][PC] PC uninstallation complete"
                    }
                    
                    do_drone_install() {
                        echo "[INFO][DRONE] Enabling USB NCM networking on VOXL via adb"
                    
                        adb root
                        adb remount
                    
                        echo "[INFO][DRONE] Updating USB composition in Qualcomm script \
                    $USB_COMP_QUALCOM configure the usb gadget with \
                    the addition of the function NCM"
                        echo "[INFO][DRONE] In $USB_COMP_QUALCOM, \
                    add the line 'ln -s functions/ncm.0 configs/c.1/f3 2>/dev/null | true' \
                    just after the line 'ln -s functions/ffs.adb configs/c.1/f2'"
                        
                        adb shell "sed -i '/ln -s functions\\/ffs.adb configs\\/c.1\\/f2/a \
                        \\        ln -s functions\\/ncm.0 configs\\/c.1\\/f3 2>\\/dev\\/null | true' \
                        $USB_COMP_QUALCOM"
                    
                        echo "[INFO][DRONE] Creating udev rule $UDEV_RULE_DRONE for usb0 with IP ${DRONE_IP}"
                        
                        adb shell "cat << 'EOF' > $UDEV_RULE_DRONE
                    ACTION==\"add\", SUBSYSTEM==\"net\", KERNEL==\"usb0\", \
                    RUN+=\"/bin/sh -c 'sleep 2; /sbin/ifconfig usb0 ${DRONE_IP} netmask 255.255.255.0 up'\"
                    EOF"
                    
                        echo "[INFO][DRONE] NCM enabled — reboot required"
                    }
                    
                    do_drone_uninstall() {
                        echo "[INFO][DRONE] Removing NCM configuration"
                    
                        adb root
                        adb remount
                    
                        echo "[INFO][DRONE] Removing udev rule $UDEV_RULE_DRONE"
                        adb shell "rm -f $UDEV_RULE_DRONE || true"
                    
                        echo "[INFO][DRONE] Reverting USB composition (901D)"
                        adb shell "
                        sed -i '/ln -s functions\\/ncm.0 configs\\/c.1\\/f3/d' \
                        $USB_COMP_QUALCOM
                        "
                    
                        echo "[INFO][DRONE] USB NCM configuration removed"
                        echo "[INFO][DRONE] Reboot required to fully apply changes"
                    }
                    
                    
                    # Arg parsing
                    TARGET_PC=false
                    TARGET_DRONE=false
                    DO_UNINSTALL=false
                    
                    for arg in "$@"; do
                      case "$arg" in
                        --help) show_help; exit 0 ;;
                        --pc) TARGET_PC=true ;;
                        --drone) TARGET_DRONE=true ;;
                        --uninstall) DO_UNINSTALL=true ;;
                        *)
                          echo "[ERROR] Unknown argument: $arg";
                          show_help;
                          exit 1 ;;
                      esac
                    done
                    
                    # Default to both if none selected
                    if ! $TARGET_PC && ! $TARGET_DRONE; then
                      TARGET_PC=true
                      TARGET_DRONE=true
                    fi
                    
                    # Execute
                    if $DO_UNINSTALL; then
                      $TARGET_PC && do_pc_uninstall
                      $TARGET_DRONE && do_drone_uninstall
                    else
                      $TARGET_PC && do_pc_install
                      $TARGET_DRONE && do_drone_install
                    fi
                    
                    echo "[INFO] All done."
                    ``
                    
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                    • Zachary Lowell 0Z Zachary Lowell 0

                      Hi All - gonna spend a bit of time looking into this today so I can get some context on the problem.

                      Zach

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                      @Zachary-Lowell-0 Hey Zach did you discover anything in this effort? I played around with recompiling the kernel to include the CONFIG_USB_CONFIGFS_RNDIS=y flag and confirmed it took on my Voxl 2 Mini, and can see the existence of a new rndis.rndis function in the usb gadget functions directory, but when I try to reconfigure the 901D config file, I end up just breaking the USB port entirely.

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                        @qt said in PX4 -> QGC connection through USB for VOXL2:

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                        @bendraper I kind of redid exactly what you described above and ran into very similar issue in the sense that it basically rocked my usb-c port. All this to say, I think we should choose a different route - is it possible instead to route the packets via adb over the USB-C port instead to basically get the same result? Point the software to the serial connection and leverage ADB to pull the packets that are forwarded? Basically creating our own sudo rndis connection almost.

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                          @qt said in PX4 -> QGC connection through USB for VOXL2:

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                          @bendraper I kind of redid exactly what you described above and ran into very similar issue in the sense that it basically rocked my usb-c port. All this to say, I think we should choose a different route - is it possible instead to route the packets via adb over the USB-C port instead to basically get the same result? Point the software to the serial connection and leverage ADB to pull the packets that are forwarded? Basically creating our own sudo rndis connection almost.

                          Zach

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                          @Zachary-Lowell-0 This would probably work but for my use case I cannot guarantee ADB being an option unfortunately.

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                            @Zachary-Lowell-0 This would probably work but for my use case I cannot guarantee ADB being an option unfortunately.

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                            @bendraper , have you considered running a docker container (VM) on your Windows machine with a minimal Linux kernel that would use the Linux drivers for NCM and create the proper network connection between VOXL2 and Linux container. Then you could potentially set up the routing table in Windows so that it can access the device via the Linux container and linux container may need to have some networking magic down as well to pass through the communication?

                            Alex

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                              ^^^ This is the next best option outside of ADB IMO - nice suggestion @Alex-Kushleyev

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