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  • tomT Offline
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    @wilkinsaf The latest VOXL system image release doesn’t have the necessary kernel flags enabled to build the required RNDIS drivers. These drivers will be enabled on our next system image release as we also had a need for using them in the future.

    I can point you toward those kernel changes if you’d like to take a look at building the kernel yourself in case you don’t want to wait until the next release.

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      that would be fantastic @tom !

      responding within 6 minutes on a Sunday. Wild.

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        @wilkinsaf Okay not sure if you've built the voxl kernel yourself previously but here is the project used to do so: https://gitlab.com/voxl-public/system-image-build/voxl-build/-/tree/master

        And then kernel mods get pulled in from https://gitlab.com/voxl-public/system-image-build/meta-voxl

        The master branch of meta-voxl already has the necessary mods but in case you want to take a look at them, they're here:
        https://gitlab.com/voxl-public/system-image-build/meta-voxl/-/commit/ab321adb2b0a9c8dd28b2793b445ddf7dccedc68

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          @wilkinsaf Okay not sure if you've built the voxl kernel yourself previously but here is the project used to do so: https://gitlab.com/voxl-public/system-image-build/voxl-build/-/tree/master

          And then kernel mods get pulled in from https://gitlab.com/voxl-public/system-image-build/meta-voxl

          The master branch of meta-voxl already has the necessary mods but in case you want to take a look at them, they're here:
          https://gitlab.com/voxl-public/system-image-build/meta-voxl/-/commit/ab321adb2b0a9c8dd28b2793b445ddf7dccedc68

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          @tom

          I flashed the new kernel and tried the RNDIS connection. I did not see anything come up.
          I then wiped the card and did a full reflash (just to make sure) and did not see the connection come up.

          It sounds like you just spoke with Seth. I am sure he mentioned we do not specifically need an RNDIS connection, but an internet connection over USB in general.

          II am not sure how VOXL does this connection. I saw some qmi files, so I assumed it was some custom programming. Would you be able to add some insight into how the VOXL makes connections to its modems? We usually leverage modem-manager on linux devices, but I doubt that is present on yocto

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            When you say an internet connection over USB, are you meaning just using USB to ethernet (tethered) ? In which case you could just use a USB to ethernet adapter like this one: https://www.cablecreation.com/collections/usb-2-0-3-0/products/usb-ethernet-adapter

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              Link Preview Image
              Using USB to Ethernet with VOXL

              ModalAI technical documentation for VOXL and VOXL 2 Companion Computers for PX4 and ArduPilot Obstacle Avoidance and GPS-denied navigation, assembled in the USA

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              ModalAI Technical Docs (docs.modalai.com)

              Not all usb to ethernet adapters are supported. A lot of people around the office use the apple ones but they have since been discontinued and are hard to find online so the other one I linked works as well.

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                Link Preview Image
                Using USB to Ethernet with VOXL

                ModalAI technical documentation for VOXL and VOXL 2 Companion Computers for PX4 and ArduPilot Obstacle Avoidance and GPS-denied navigation, assembled in the USA

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                ModalAI Technical Docs (docs.modalai.com)

                Not all usb to ethernet adapters are supported. A lot of people around the office use the apple ones but they have since been discontinued and are hard to find online so the other one I linked works as well.

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                @tom AAAHHHH

                hence 892a0218-8729-474f-ba53-69f2039d0ffa-image.png

                Because not all are the same. Yes, that is what we mean. USB to Ethernet tethered. However, it appears that these are not all of the same. Some work and some don't.

                We have a couple different here I can try. I wonder what makes the apple ones work in particular. Our goal is to try and get different modems working over USB. One provides RNDIS. Apparently another does usb to ethernet interface.

                My knowledge on these network connections over usb is (obviously) novice.

                Would you recommend looking through voxl-modem to see how a connection is made, or is there another informational page you recommend?

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                  @tom AAAHHHH

                  hence 892a0218-8729-474f-ba53-69f2039d0ffa-image.png

                  Because not all are the same. Yes, that is what we mean. USB to Ethernet tethered. However, it appears that these are not all of the same. Some work and some don't.

                  We have a couple different here I can try. I wonder what makes the apple ones work in particular. Our goal is to try and get different modems working over USB. One provides RNDIS. Apparently another does usb to ethernet interface.

                  My knowledge on these network connections over usb is (obviously) novice.

                  Would you recommend looking through voxl-modem to see how a connection is made, or is there another informational page you recommend?

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                  @wilkinsaf We are just attempting to understand how VOXL can make these network connections (bring up eth0 and such)

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                    @wilkinsaf Any sort of process used to support usb to ethernet is located at the kernel level (I believe). voxl-modem for example isn't used at all for bringing up a usb to ethernet dongle connection.

                    So if the usb to ethernet dongle is supported (we've only tried out a couple and stuck with ones that have worked for us), the network interface should "just come up" wihtout any intervention from voxl-modem

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                      I find using dmesg -wH super helpful when debugging usb devices as you can monitor which driver is picking up the hardware that is being plugged in and then you can inspect the driver itself if needed. Although, if the hardware is unrecognized by the kernel you may not see anything in dmesg

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                        This is super helpful.

                        Thank you @tom. I will continue posting here for updates

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                        • tomT tom

                          I find using dmesg -wH super helpful when debugging usb devices as you can monitor which driver is picking up the hardware that is being plugged in and then you can inspect the driver itself if needed. Although, if the hardware is unrecognized by the kernel you may not see anything in dmesg

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                          @tom said in RNDIS Connection:

                          dmesg -wH

                          Apologies for the delay Tom.

                          I got some extra hardware and I am trying again to form RNDIS connection. I see the usb device and captured log from dmesg -wH command

                          [  +0.234046] usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 3 using xhci-hcd
                          [  +0.153446] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0104
                          [  +0.000049] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
                          [  +0.000027] usb 1-1: Product: RNDIS Gadget
                          [  +0.000022] usb 1-1: Manufacturer: DTC
                          [  +0.000023] usb 1-1: SerialNumber: 0123678945
                          [  +0.059949] rndis_host 1-1:1.0 usb0: register 'rndis_host' at usb-xhci-hcd.0.auto-1, RNDIS device, ffffffc0ec10b610
                          [  +0.001060] mdss_register_panel: mdss mdp resource not initialized yet
                          [  +0.000047] mdss_wb soc:qcom,mdss_wb_panel: unable to register writeback panel
                          [  +0.012804] cdc_acm 1-1:1.2: This device cannot do calls on its own. It is not a modem.
                          [  +0.013688] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Platform data from device tree
                          [  +0.000347] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: cdc-vdd-buck: vol=[1800000 1800000]uV, curr=[650000]uA, ond 0
                          [  +0.000082] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: cdc-buck-sido: vol=[1800000 1800000]uV, curr=[250000]uA, ond 0
                          [  +0.000062] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: cdc-vdd-tx-h: vol=[1800000 1800000]uV, curr=[25000]uA, ond 0
                          [  +0.000059] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: cdc-vdd-rx-h: vol=[1800000 1800000]uV, curr=[25000]uA, ond 0
                          [  +0.000068] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: cdc-vddpx-1: vol=[1800000 1800000]uV, curr=[10000]uA, ond 0
                          [  +0.000025] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias-ldoh-v property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                          [  +0.000025] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias-cfilt1-mv property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                          [  +0.002282] cdc_acm 1-1:1.2: ttyACM0: USB ACM device
                          [  +0.005805] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias-cfilt2-mv property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                          [  +0.000036] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias-cfilt3-mv property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                          [  +0.000030] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias1-cfilt-sel property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                          [  +0.000034] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias2-cfilt-sel property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                          [  +0.000020] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias3-cfilt-sel property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                          [  +0.000021] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias4-cfilt-sel property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                          [  +0.000180] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-mic-unmute-delay property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                          [  +0.000040] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: wcd9xxx_slim_probe: codec type is 2
                          [  +0.170558] wcd9xxx_slim_probe: failed to get slimbus tasha-slim-pgd logical address: -6
                          [  +0.003819] mdss_register_panel: mdss mdp resource not initialized yet
                          [  +0.000058] mdss_wb soc:qcom,mdss_wb_panel: unable to register writeback panel
                          [  +0.018967] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Platform data from device tree
                          [  +0.000134] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: cdc-vdd-buck: vol=[1800000 1800000]uV, curr=[650000]uA, ond 0
                          [  +0.000034] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: cdc-buck-sido: vol=[1800000 1800000]uV, curr=[250000]uA, ond 0
                          [  +0.000032] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: cdc-vdd-tx-h: vol=[1800000 1800000]uV, curr=[25000]uA, ond 0
                          [  +0.000032] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: cdc-vdd-rx-h: vol=[1800000 1800000]uV, curr=[25000]uA, ond 0
                          [  +0.000033] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: cdc-vddpx-1: vol=[1800000 1800000]uV, curr=[10000]uA, ond 0
                          [  +0.000016] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias-ldoh-v property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                          [  +0.000011] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias-cfilt1-mv property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                          [  +0.000012] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias-cfilt2-mv property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                          [  +0.000013] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias-cfilt3-mv property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                          [  +0.000014] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias1-cfilt-sel property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                          [  +0.000011] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias2-cfilt-sel property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                          [  +0.000010] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias3-cfilt-sel property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                          [  +0.000011] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias4-cfilt-sel property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                          [  +0.000059] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-mic-unmute-delay property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                          [  +0.000027] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: wcd9xxx_slim_probe: codec type is 2
                          [  +0.156933] wcd9xxx_slim_probe: failed to get slimbus tasha-slim-pgd logical address: -6
                          
                          

                          not seeing the RNDIS interface, but I am going to look closer into this

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                            5e76d789-acb8-455c-a515-fe3a08c85deb-image.png

                            Cool, lets see if I can actually talk over it

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                              @wilkinsaf Awesome! Looks like you've made some good progress

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                                @wilkinsaf Awesome! Looks like you've made some good progress

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                                @tom Yes! we were able to make a connection! Thank you @tom

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