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      wilkinsaf ModalAI Team
      last edited by 10 Apr 2022, 18:14

      Hello,
      I am trying to form an RNDIS connection on the VOXL Flight using the USB Debug board.

      Current setup0ed2d08b-952d-4e07-beb5-342d2e31d6ed-image.png

      I followed the instructions laid out here

      We have not seen any new interfaces come up after running ifconfig

      To be fair, this is not an out of the box voxl. We have run voxl-configure-modem on this device to setup a microhard. However, I deleted the /etc/network/interfaces file in an attempt to allow eth0 to be assigned an IP address by the network, but that did not work.

      Things I am going to try next.

      1. Install fresh Firmware version
      2. Not configure the microhard modem on top
      3. turn off softap (just in case)

      I am going to track my progress here in case it is useful for someone else. Outside of that, if you have any suggestions on getting RNDIS to work, that would be great!

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        tom admin
        last edited by 10 Apr 2022, 18:20

        @wilkinsaf The latest VOXL system image release doesn’t have the necessary kernel flags enabled to build the required RNDIS drivers. These drivers will be enabled on our next system image release as we also had a need for using them in the future.

        I can point you toward those kernel changes if you’d like to take a look at building the kernel yourself in case you don’t want to wait until the next release.

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          wilkinsaf ModalAI Team
          last edited by 10 Apr 2022, 18:23

          that would be fantastic @tom !

          responding within 6 minutes on a Sunday. Wild.

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            tom admin
            last edited by 10 Apr 2022, 18:28

            @wilkinsaf Okay not sure if you've built the voxl kernel yourself previously but here is the project used to do so: https://gitlab.com/voxl-public/system-image-build/voxl-build/-/tree/master

            And then kernel mods get pulled in from https://gitlab.com/voxl-public/system-image-build/meta-voxl

            The master branch of meta-voxl already has the necessary mods but in case you want to take a look at them, they're here:
            https://gitlab.com/voxl-public/system-image-build/meta-voxl/-/commit/ab321adb2b0a9c8dd28b2793b445ddf7dccedc68

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              wilkinsaf ModalAI Team @tom
              last edited by 12 Apr 2022, 18:06

              @tom

              I flashed the new kernel and tried the RNDIS connection. I did not see anything come up.
              I then wiped the card and did a full reflash (just to make sure) and did not see the connection come up.

              It sounds like you just spoke with Seth. I am sure he mentioned we do not specifically need an RNDIS connection, but an internet connection over USB in general.

              II am not sure how VOXL does this connection. I saw some qmi files, so I assumed it was some custom programming. Would you be able to add some insight into how the VOXL makes connections to its modems? We usually leverage modem-manager on linux devices, but I doubt that is present on yocto

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                tom admin
                last edited by 12 Apr 2022, 19:10

                When you say an internet connection over USB, are you meaning just using USB to ethernet (tethered) ? In which case you could just use a USB to ethernet adapter like this one: https://www.cablecreation.com/collections/usb-2-0-3-0/products/usb-ethernet-adapter

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                  tom admin
                  last edited by 12 Apr 2022, 19:15

                  https://docs.modalai.com/usb-to-ethernet-with-voxl/

                  Not all usb to ethernet adapters are supported. A lot of people around the office use the apple ones but they have since been discontinued and are hard to find online so the other one I linked works as well.

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                    wilkinsaf ModalAI Team @tom
                    last edited by 12 Apr 2022, 19:32

                    @tom AAAHHHH

                    hence 892a0218-8729-474f-ba53-69f2039d0ffa-image.png

                    Because not all are the same. Yes, that is what we mean. USB to Ethernet tethered. However, it appears that these are not all of the same. Some work and some don't.

                    We have a couple different here I can try. I wonder what makes the apple ones work in particular. Our goal is to try and get different modems working over USB. One provides RNDIS. Apparently another does usb to ethernet interface.

                    My knowledge on these network connections over usb is (obviously) novice.

                    Would you recommend looking through voxl-modem to see how a connection is made, or is there another informational page you recommend?

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                      wilkinsaf ModalAI Team @wilkinsaf
                      last edited by wilkinsaf 12 Apr 2022, 19:33 12 Apr 2022, 19:33

                      @wilkinsaf We are just attempting to understand how VOXL can make these network connections (bring up eth0 and such)

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                        tom admin
                        last edited by 12 Apr 2022, 19:36

                        @wilkinsaf Any sort of process used to support usb to ethernet is located at the kernel level (I believe). voxl-modem for example isn't used at all for bringing up a usb to ethernet dongle connection.

                        So if the usb to ethernet dongle is supported (we've only tried out a couple and stuck with ones that have worked for us), the network interface should "just come up" wihtout any intervention from voxl-modem

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                          tom admin
                          last edited by tom 12 Apr 2022, 20:04 12 Apr 2022, 20:04

                          I find using dmesg -wH super helpful when debugging usb devices as you can monitor which driver is picking up the hardware that is being plugged in and then you can inspect the driver itself if needed. Although, if the hardware is unrecognized by the kernel you may not see anything in dmesg

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                            wilkinsaf ModalAI Team
                            last edited by 12 Apr 2022, 21:04

                            This is super helpful.

                            Thank you @tom. I will continue posting here for updates

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                              wilkinsaf ModalAI Team @tom
                              last edited by 22 Apr 2022, 00:57

                              @tom said in RNDIS Connection:

                              dmesg -wH

                              Apologies for the delay Tom.

                              I got some extra hardware and I am trying again to form RNDIS connection. I see the usb device and captured log from dmesg -wH command

                              [  +0.234046] usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 3 using xhci-hcd
                              [  +0.153446] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0104
                              [  +0.000049] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
                              [  +0.000027] usb 1-1: Product: RNDIS Gadget
                              [  +0.000022] usb 1-1: Manufacturer: DTC
                              [  +0.000023] usb 1-1: SerialNumber: 0123678945
                              [  +0.059949] rndis_host 1-1:1.0 usb0: register 'rndis_host' at usb-xhci-hcd.0.auto-1, RNDIS device, ffffffc0ec10b610
                              [  +0.001060] mdss_register_panel: mdss mdp resource not initialized yet
                              [  +0.000047] mdss_wb soc:qcom,mdss_wb_panel: unable to register writeback panel
                              [  +0.012804] cdc_acm 1-1:1.2: This device cannot do calls on its own. It is not a modem.
                              [  +0.013688] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Platform data from device tree
                              [  +0.000347] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: cdc-vdd-buck: vol=[1800000 1800000]uV, curr=[650000]uA, ond 0
                              [  +0.000082] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: cdc-buck-sido: vol=[1800000 1800000]uV, curr=[250000]uA, ond 0
                              [  +0.000062] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: cdc-vdd-tx-h: vol=[1800000 1800000]uV, curr=[25000]uA, ond 0
                              [  +0.000059] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: cdc-vdd-rx-h: vol=[1800000 1800000]uV, curr=[25000]uA, ond 0
                              [  +0.000068] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: cdc-vddpx-1: vol=[1800000 1800000]uV, curr=[10000]uA, ond 0
                              [  +0.000025] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias-ldoh-v property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                              [  +0.000025] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias-cfilt1-mv property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                              [  +0.002282] cdc_acm 1-1:1.2: ttyACM0: USB ACM device
                              [  +0.005805] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias-cfilt2-mv property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                              [  +0.000036] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias-cfilt3-mv property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                              [  +0.000030] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias1-cfilt-sel property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                              [  +0.000034] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias2-cfilt-sel property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                              [  +0.000020] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias3-cfilt-sel property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                              [  +0.000021] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias4-cfilt-sel property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                              [  +0.000180] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-mic-unmute-delay property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                              [  +0.000040] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: wcd9xxx_slim_probe: codec type is 2
                              [  +0.170558] wcd9xxx_slim_probe: failed to get slimbus tasha-slim-pgd logical address: -6
                              [  +0.003819] mdss_register_panel: mdss mdp resource not initialized yet
                              [  +0.000058] mdss_wb soc:qcom,mdss_wb_panel: unable to register writeback panel
                              [  +0.018967] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Platform data from device tree
                              [  +0.000134] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: cdc-vdd-buck: vol=[1800000 1800000]uV, curr=[650000]uA, ond 0
                              [  +0.000034] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: cdc-buck-sido: vol=[1800000 1800000]uV, curr=[250000]uA, ond 0
                              [  +0.000032] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: cdc-vdd-tx-h: vol=[1800000 1800000]uV, curr=[25000]uA, ond 0
                              [  +0.000032] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: cdc-vdd-rx-h: vol=[1800000 1800000]uV, curr=[25000]uA, ond 0
                              [  +0.000033] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: cdc-vddpx-1: vol=[1800000 1800000]uV, curr=[10000]uA, ond 0
                              [  +0.000016] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias-ldoh-v property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                              [  +0.000011] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias-cfilt1-mv property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                              [  +0.000012] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias-cfilt2-mv property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                              [  +0.000013] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias-cfilt3-mv property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                              [  +0.000014] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias1-cfilt-sel property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                              [  +0.000011] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias2-cfilt-sel property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                              [  +0.000010] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias3-cfilt-sel property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                              [  +0.000011] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-micbias4-cfilt-sel property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                              [  +0.000059] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: Looking up qcom,cdc-mic-unmute-delay property in node /soc/slim@91c0000/tasha_codec failed
                              [  +0.000027] wcd9335-slim tasha-slim-pgd: wcd9xxx_slim_probe: codec type is 2
                              [  +0.156933] wcd9xxx_slim_probe: failed to get slimbus tasha-slim-pgd logical address: -6
                              
                              

                              not seeing the RNDIS interface, but I am going to look closer into this

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                                wilkinsaf ModalAI Team
                                last edited by 22 Apr 2022, 01:06

                                5e76d789-acb8-455c-a515-fe3a08c85deb-image.png

                                Cool, lets see if I can actually talk over it

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                                  tom admin
                                  last edited by 22 Apr 2022, 17:12

                                  @wilkinsaf Awesome! Looks like you've made some good progress

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                                    wilkinsaf ModalAI Team @tom
                                    last edited by 26 Apr 2022, 02:03

                                    @tom Yes! we were able to make a connection! Thank you @tom

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