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    • Jetson NanoJ
      Jetson Nano @Jetson Nano
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      @modaltb

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      • modaltbM
        modaltb ModalAI Team
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        Hi @Jetson-Nano

        OK we'd expect something on the bus like this:

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        Can you describe your wiring setup?

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        • Jetson NanoJ
          Jetson Nano
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          This is the wiring diagram of the sensor with the USB Expansion Board.
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          • Jetson NanoJ
            Jetson Nano @Jetson Nano
            last edited by

            @modaltb Is there any specific SDK we could check for the working of Range-Finder with?

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            • modaltbM
              modaltb ModalAI Team @Jetson Nano
              last edited by

              @Jetson-Nano are you using our M0070 board like this? https://docs.modalai.com/rangefinders/#single-rangefinder-using-m0141-expansion-board

              Or custom? If custom check pin 5, which on our M0070 board is pulled up to 3.3VDC.

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              • Jetson NanoJ
                Jetson Nano @modaltb
                last edited by

                @modaltb I'm using M0141 expansion board.

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                • modaltbM
                  modaltb ModalAI Team @Jetson Nano
                  last edited by

                  @Jetson-Nano what is the VL53L1X on?

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                  • Jetson NanoJ
                    Jetson Nano @modaltb
                    last edited by Jetson Nano

                    @modaltb is connected on J5 port of M0141.

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                    • modaltbM
                      modaltb ModalAI Team @Jetson Nano
                      last edited by

                      @Jetson-Nano can you take a picture? for example, we make a M0070 board that has this sensor on it. Are you making your own carrier board for the sensor?

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                      • Jetson NanoJ
                        Jetson Nano @modaltb
                        last edited by

                        @modaltb This is our setup,

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                        • VinnyV
                          Vinny ModalAI Team @Jetson Nano
                          last edited by Vinny

                          HI @Jetson-Nano
                          We have not seen that module before.
                          Is there a product link you can share so we can investigate for voltage and signal compatibility?

                          Thanks!

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                          • Jetson NanoJ
                            Jetson Nano @Vinny
                            last edited by

                            @Vinny @modaltb Here is the link of the product

                            https://www.ktron.in/product/vl53l1x-laser-ranging-module-tof/

                            Thanks!

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                            • VinnyV
                              Vinny ModalAI Team @Jetson Nano
                              last edited by

                              Thanks @Jetson-Nano
                              Can you help us find schematics?
                              I do not know what these parts are doing and could be leading to some of your issues...
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                              That site only has the link for the original datasheet.
                              Without more detail, I cannot offer much help aside from speculation.

                              Thanks!

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                              • Jetson NanoJ
                                Jetson Nano @Vinny
                                last edited by

                                @Vinny I was not able to get the schematics. But when I tested this sensor with a Pixhawk flight controller running PX4, I was able to get it working on I2C.

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                                • VinnyV
                                  Vinny ModalAI Team @Jetson Nano
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi @Jetson-Nano
                                  Pixhawk ports are 5V voltage output, we provide 3.3V.

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                                  So, that data point does not help me from the HW viewpoint. I am assuming you knew you had 5V VREF from Pixhawk and converted to 3.3V.

                                  However, if we had the SCH of that module, that will tell me if they are actually trying to do voltage conversion of the I2C bus down to 1.8V (the default operating mode of these ST ToF units), which most likely is not compatible with our ports.
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                                  Most hobby electronics shops do not plan for all variations of translators, and most voltage translators do not like being cascaded. With a pixhawk, you are native 3.3V from the micro-controller w/o a level translator, so going through 1 level translator down to either 1.8V or 2.8V is no issue.
                                  On VOXL 2 and VOXL 2 Mini, all of our JST ports have been translated up from 1.8V to 3.3V, which can limit the signal level translators we can work with since we end up with cascaded translators and that can be problematic if not designed correctly, especially I2C.
                                  So, the SCH for that module is required for me to help further.
                                  Sorry, but I can't do much else.

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                                  • Jetson NanoJ
                                    Jetson Nano @Vinny
                                    last edited by

                                    @Vinny Is there any other carrier board you recommend, because modalai doesn't have the rangefinder for sale yet?

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                                    • VinnyV
                                      Vinny ModalAI Team @Jetson Nano
                                      last edited by

                                      Hi @Jetson-Nano
                                      Every time we try an OTS product, it is flakey due to level translation issues. So we have done our own internally, but not yet made it available standalone. It is on our roadmap to support these ST ToF modules, not just the VL53L1x, but others as well.

                                      The Starling V2 Front End has one of these, but we have not made that little board a standalone product yet: https://docs.modalai.com/M0173/#downward-range-finder-and-flir-lepton

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                                      • Jetson NanoJ
                                        Jetson Nano @Vinny
                                        last edited by

                                        @Vinny Thanks!

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                                        • VinnyV
                                          Vinny ModalAI Team @Jetson Nano
                                          last edited by

                                          @Jetson-Nano
                                          I'll try my best to tag you once we make the M0157 for sale individually, but it relies specifically on the hardware circuits on M0173 to work.
                                          Again lots of interface nuances with these little ST sensors, and the newer ones are more painful to integrate since they are dual voltage. We are working that aspect now for future efforts. I know this does not help you now, but rest assured we are on it!

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                                          • Jetson NanoJ
                                            Jetson Nano @Vinny
                                            last edited by

                                            @Vinny I saw that M0173 is available in the modalai website. If I get that board with the new image sensors and use it with voxl 2, can I get the VIO running with three tracking cameras?

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