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Considering purchasing 12x Doodle Labs radios + Sentinel 2's : possible swarm configuration? Please confirm.

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  • Slade VillenaS Offline
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    Slade Villena
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    Hi. We were considering purchasing 12x Sentinels, but were also considering the Doodle Labs radio instead of the Microhards
    https://www.modalai.com/products/mini-oem-smart-radio?variant=40946775621683

    Would the Doodle Labs radio be compatible with the Sentinel? Also, do we have to install + solder the Doodle Labs radios ourselves? (Or do you provide this as a service?)

    For a swarm configuration, would we need
    1x Stand Alone Doodle Labs Radio for our ground station
    12x Add-On Doodle Labs Radio, each mounted on a Sentinel.

    Is the above the proper configuration? Would we need extra dongles / add-on boards purchased to have the radios mounted? (ie, like the Microhard dongles/add-ons etc).

    Would like this confirmed, since we are now writing out a bill-of-materials, and will be making a purchase soon.

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    • Slade VillenaS Slade Villena

      Hi. We were considering purchasing 12x Sentinels, but were also considering the Doodle Labs radio instead of the Microhards
      https://www.modalai.com/products/mini-oem-smart-radio?variant=40946775621683

      Would the Doodle Labs radio be compatible with the Sentinel? Also, do we have to install + solder the Doodle Labs radios ourselves? (Or do you provide this as a service?)

      For a swarm configuration, would we need
      1x Stand Alone Doodle Labs Radio for our ground station
      12x Add-On Doodle Labs Radio, each mounted on a Sentinel.

      Is the above the proper configuration? Would we need extra dongles / add-on boards purchased to have the radios mounted? (ie, like the Microhard dongles/add-ons etc).

      Would like this confirmed, since we are now writing out a bill-of-materials, and will be making a purchase soon.

      VinnyV Offline
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      Vinny
      ModalAI Team
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      Hi @Slade-Villena
      Both radios are interfaced to Voxl2 over USB.
      For Microhard, we have a more tightly integrated HW solution with our direct plug-in modules (and standalone too, 2nd link)
      https://www.modalai.com/products/voxl-microhard-modem-usb-hub
      https://www.modalai.com/products/mh-sa

      For Doodle Labs, it requires a different plug-in board, such as our M0090 5G modem board (without a modem) to expose the USB host ports to connect to Doodle.
      https://www.modalai.com/products/m0090?variant=40594936463411

      When we sell a Doodle radio, we include a cable that plugs into our 4-pin USB port.
      https://docs.modalai.com/cable-datasheets/#mcbl-00068

      Note: The 4-pin USB cable can plug into the Microhard Radio board, but that design only supports USB2 spec 500mA (not enough to power a Doodle radio). Only our newer plug-in boards (such as the M0090 for Voxl2) can support up to 5W on VBUS.

      Hope that helps you decide, and if you need further info, please reach out!

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      • VinnyV Vinny

        Hi @Slade-Villena
        Both radios are interfaced to Voxl2 over USB.
        For Microhard, we have a more tightly integrated HW solution with our direct plug-in modules (and standalone too, 2nd link)
        https://www.modalai.com/products/voxl-microhard-modem-usb-hub
        https://www.modalai.com/products/mh-sa

        For Doodle Labs, it requires a different plug-in board, such as our M0090 5G modem board (without a modem) to expose the USB host ports to connect to Doodle.
        https://www.modalai.com/products/m0090?variant=40594936463411

        When we sell a Doodle radio, we include a cable that plugs into our 4-pin USB port.
        https://docs.modalai.com/cable-datasheets/#mcbl-00068

        Note: The 4-pin USB cable can plug into the Microhard Radio board, but that design only supports USB2 spec 500mA (not enough to power a Doodle radio). Only our newer plug-in boards (such as the M0090 for Voxl2) can support up to 5W on VBUS.

        Hope that helps you decide, and if you need further info, please reach out!

        Slade VillenaS Offline
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        Slade Villena
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        @Vinny thanks for this info, it looks like our group will go with a Doodle Labs configuration.

        I do have some further questions.

        1. Is it possible to order a complete Sentinel kit + the M0090 5G board + a Doodle Labs air-radio, all pre-installed (or pre-soldered? does this require soldering?) by Modal AI? Was hoping this was a service you all could provide.

        2. For the Doodle Labs ground-radio, do we require any other add-on boards to connect to a Laptop USB? How about connecting to an Android USB-C port? Curious how that configuration would go.

        We're definitely prepared to order, just want to confirm these two pieces of critical info above, before we place the order.

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        • Chad SweetC Offline
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          Chad Sweet
          ModalAI Team
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          Soldering is not required, though there is no direct mount. The Doodle radio connects to the Sentinel via USB. You will need to design a mount for the Sentinel to hold the radio

          The standalone kit is intended to plug into the laptop

          Please note, the Doodle radios have a 4 week lead time and each drone is built to order

          The Sentinel is a development platform for open, UAS software development.

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          • Chad SweetC Chad Sweet

            Soldering is not required, though there is no direct mount. The Doodle radio connects to the Sentinel via USB. You will need to design a mount for the Sentinel to hold the radio

            The standalone kit is intended to plug into the laptop

            Please note, the Doodle radios have a 4 week lead time and each drone is built to order

            The Sentinel is a development platform for open, UAS software development.

            Slade VillenaS Offline
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            Slade Villena
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            @Chad-Sweet thanks for that.

            We'll be placing an order soon!

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