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IMX377 M12 Sensor Over saturated on G channel

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  • Chad SweetC Offline
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    Chad Sweet
    ModalAI Team
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    #12

    FYI, docs updated here: https://docs.modalai.com/voxl-cam-ros/

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    • Bobby BukovecB Offline
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      Bobby Bukovec
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      #13

      @Alex-Kushleyev @Chad-Sweet

      Hey guys, so good news. With your support we are able to turn on both AWB and AE on both the IMX214 Sensor and the IMX377 sensor.

      The IMX377 sensor is still more saturated than the other sensor. Please see the pictures below.

      All settings are exactly the same for both the IMX 377 and IMX 214 sensors

      IMX 377 Color Wheel
      target-imx377.png

      IMX 214 Color Wheel
      target-imx214.png

      IMX 377 Outdoors
      outside-imx377.png

      IMX 214 Outdoors
      outside-imx214.png

      Any thoughts?

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      • Alex KushleyevA Offline
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        Alex Kushleyev
        ModalAI Team
        wrote on last edited by Alex Kushleyev
        #14

        Nice, some progress..

        I do see the colors being off in the image. The indoor image (IMX377) with the color wheel looks too "warm".

        Did you try using voxl-rtsp to record the video? please try, just to double check that you get the same results. Since you are using a ros node, which converts from YUV format to RGB (before encoding as a video), it is possible that the format conversion is not accurate. voxl-rtsp will record the video natively using the built-in hardware video encoder.

        Also, just to double check, are you using a lens with IR cut filter? If there is no IR cut filter, the image sensor can get saturated with ambient IR light across all colors (not necessarily equally).

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        • Chad SweetC Offline
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          Chad Sweet
          ModalAI Team
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          #15

          I just checked with our supplier, there is a 650nm IR FILTER

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          • Alex KushleyevA Offline
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            Alex Kushleyev
            ModalAI Team
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            #16

            Is the filter inside the lens holder or in the lens itself? I think different lenses might be tested here.

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            • Alex KushleyevA Offline
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              Alex Kushleyev
              ModalAI Team
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              #17

              Hi Bobby,

              I did some more testing and it seems i can get the IMX377 camera to produce green-ish shades under some lighting conditions. I believe that this is due to AWB somehow incorrectly detecting the scene / lighting type. Let me play with this, I think the solution can be to force a particular scene type so that AWB does not try to guess.

              In my tests, I pointed the camera at a light gray wall and depending on the angle, it would show up as gray or sometimes a bit green-ish.

              I will follow up soon..

              Alex

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              • JP DroneJ Offline
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                #18

                Hello,
                I have the same green-ish problem of IMX377.
                It's also happened in voxl-camera-server v1.1.3 with AWB enabled.
                Are there any plans to improve it in the future?

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                • JP DroneJ Offline
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                  #19

                  When the Gain drop, image turn to Green-ish.
                  Do you have plan to release WB setting feature?
                  It would be very useful to be able to change WB from config setting file without changing the source.

                  image1.png
                  image2.png

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                  • Alex KushleyevA Offline
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                    Alex Kushleyev
                    ModalAI Team
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                    #20

                    Hello @JP-Drone , thank you for bringing this to our attention (again).

                    I have been looking at improving AWB control some time ago but did not finish. I do agree there is an issue and it arises from the ISP configuration not tuned well for the specific camera. The tuning process is complicated and there is no open source API, but I am hoping that I can make a simple configuration or expose a few parameters to control AWB settings.

                    Please note that to complicate things even further, the AWB performance / tuning is currently dependent on the image brightness -- there are ISP tuning parameters for color normalization, etc across different gain ranges.

                    Just to help me a little bit, can you please provide the exact camera part number and gain values you used for the two images?

                    I will bump this up in priority a bit and will try to address soon.

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                    • Alex KushleyevA Alex Kushleyev

                      Hello @JP-Drone , thank you for bringing this to our attention (again).

                      I have been looking at improving AWB control some time ago but did not finish. I do agree there is an issue and it arises from the ISP configuration not tuned well for the specific camera. The tuning process is complicated and there is no open source API, but I am hoping that I can make a simple configuration or expose a few parameters to control AWB settings.

                      Please note that to complicate things even further, the AWB performance / tuning is currently dependent on the image brightness -- there are ISP tuning parameters for color normalization, etc across different gain ranges.

                      Just to help me a little bit, can you please provide the exact camera part number and gain values you used for the two images?

                      I will bump this up in priority a bit and will try to address soon.

                      JP DroneJ Offline
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                      JP Drone
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                      #21

                      @Alex-Kushleyev
                      Thank you for your reply.
                      I used MSU-M0026-1-01.
                      When changing to Green-ish, the gain becomes 69 (sorry, no snapshot).
                      I have a few other snapshots.
                      786fdb6c-da16-4177-a18b-147b99df3493-image.png
                      7b8f9d28-eba0-4764-b840-f295ceae19c1-image.png

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