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    • Alex KushleyevA
      Alex Kushleyev ModalAI Team @Alexander Saunders
      last edited by

      @Alexander-Saunders , thank you for confirming. I see that you are using SDK 1.2.0, which is very recent, so it already has (almost) the latest voxl-esc tools.

      I am in the process of testing the tools on voxl2 using SDK 1.2.0, please try to connect to your PC directly and this should properly detect your ESC.

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      • rdjarvisR
        rdjarvis @Alex Kushleyev
        last edited by

        @Alex-Kushleyev
        ssh'd into Linux PC.
        Connected to ESC with USB to SERIAL
        voxl2:/usr/share/modalai/voxl-esc-tools/voxl-esc-scan.py

        received same error as Windows PC.

        No ESCs detected

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        • Alex KushleyevA
          Alex Kushleyev ModalAI Team @rdjarvis
          last edited by

          @rdjarvis,

          What do you mean "ssh'd into Linux PC" ?

          I am suggesting to connect the ESC to a standalone Linux PC and run the voxl-esc-scan.py on the linux PC (not on VOXL2).

          Just wanted to clarify..

          I tested the SDK 1.2.0 and the tools are working fine, it seems.

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          • rdjarvisR
            rdjarvis @Alex Kushleyev
            last edited by

            @Alex-Kushleyev

            On the Linux PC we are directly connected to 4 pin JST on ESC to USB.

            I ssh'd into VOXL2 from the Linux PC terminal.

            I ran voxl-esc-scan.py in VOXL2 (same results) No ESCs detected.

            I ran same command in Linux terminal (not ssh'd into VOXL2) same results. No ESCs detected.

            This is including running same command in /usr/share/modalai/voxl-esc-tools/.voxl-esc-scan.py

            RDJ

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            • rdjarvisR
              rdjarvis @Alex Kushleyev
              last edited by

              @Alex-Kushleyev power is on the UAV and ESC gave proper Flashes/Tones.

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              • Alex KushleyevA
                Alex Kushleyev ModalAI Team @rdjarvis
                last edited by

                @rdjarvis , which serial to usb cable are you using? have you tested it with an ESC before? I am wondering if the RX/TX connections are correct and not swapped.

                Also, do you have any other Modalai ESC you can test just to make sure the cables are working?

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                • rdjarvisR
                  rdjarvis @Alex Kushleyev
                  last edited by rdjarvis

                  @Alex-Kushleyev

                  MCBL-00091-1
                  USB to Serial UART Cable from ModalAI
                  Both right out of the new bag.

                  We have 2 of these. Tested both. Same results.

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                  • Alex KushleyevA
                    Alex Kushleyev ModalAI Team @rdjarvis
                    last edited by Alex Kushleyev

                    @rdjarvis , ok so just to clarify.. as soon as you uploaded the new params that I provided, the esc stopped communicating? Can you please check to make sure you did not modify the baud rate in the param file before uploading?

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                    • rdjarvisR
                      rdjarvis @Alex Kushleyev
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                      @Alex-Kushleyev Screenshot 2024-04-17 125812.png

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                      • rdjarvisR
                        rdjarvis @Alex Kushleyev
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                        @Alex-Kushleyev The params you sent worked. I tested the new motors params, with the aggressive test procedures you sent.

                        They worked. Motors performed well and we confirmed the sinusoidal spin-up.

                        Binded Spektrum DSMX RX/TX and calibrated through QGC.

                        RC channels successfully calibrated in QGC.
                        Programed switches for Flight Modes.
                        ARM/DISARMED Motor kill all successful.

                        Armed for maiden flight. Slowly increased throttle with no motor response.

                        This led us to where we are now.

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                        • Alex KushleyevA
                          Alex Kushleyev ModalAI Team @rdjarvis
                          last edited by

                          @rdjarvis , thank you for clarifying.

                          it seems there is some hardware issue. Can you please confirm that nothing is making contact with the ESC components, which could cause a short or something like this? Also please inspect the 4-pin UART connector on the ESC (and around it) to make sure there is no short or anything like that cause by loose debris or anything else.

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                          • rdjarvisR
                            rdjarvis @Alex Kushleyev
                            last edited by rdjarvis

                            @Alex-Kushleyev

                            We just verified all solder and JST connections on the ModalAI FPV 4n1 ESC and VOXL2.

                            All connections are good. No shorts, no solder balls. 4 PIN USB JST connections to and from ESC and VOXL are in perfect condition and reflect no sign of wear and tear. The first time they have been disconnected for either board was for this test.

                            Upon reconnecting, and power being applied all lights and tones are heard from ESC, and able to ssh into VOXL2 with no issues.

                            Ran esc scan and esc detect, resulting in NO ESCs DETECTED.

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                            • Alexander SaundersA
                              Alexander Saunders @Alex Kushleyev
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                              @Alex-Kushleyev

                              We tried a new ESC, Modalai M0138-1, and that was detected. We are replacing the hardware and will resume testing.

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                              • rdjarvisR
                                rdjarvis @Alex Kushleyev
                                last edited by rdjarvis

                                @Alex-Kushleyev

                                Top lines are from FPV ESC#2. (GREEN ESC DETECTED)

                                Bottom lines are from FPV ESC#1.

                                ERROR: voxl_uart_read_bytes: Bus '12' is not initialized

                                This has been a common ERROR with these tests. What is "Bus 12" and how do we initialize it?Screenshot 2024-04-17 155555.png

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                                • rdjarvisR
                                  rdjarvis @Alex Kushleyev
                                  last edited by

                                  @Alex-Kushleyev

                                  **UPDATE.

                                  #2 ModalAI FPV connected to VOXL2 and 4x T-Motor 2203.5 2850kv

                                  Good connections, good lights and tones, VOXL2 connected to PC perfectly

                                  Loaded params provided by you and conducted good spin test.

                                  Connected to QGC, arm/disarm/motor kill all successful. (spins / stops)

                                  Armed in Manual and Stabilized, motors armed and when throttle added there is no response from motors. we can view on QGC when throttle (Channel 3) is increased and get positive value.

                                  Verified all other channels operating in QGC Radio tab. Low, High PWM values are in limits, positive response for pitch, roll, and yaw commands.

                                  NO RESPONSE FROM ESC/MOTORS ON THROTTLE INPUTS. MOTORS DO RESPOND TO DIFFERENT ANGLES TO TRY AND LEVEL BUT NO THROTTLE INPUT REGISTERED WHEN USING RC.

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                                  • Alex KushleyevA
                                    Alex Kushleyev ModalAI Team @rdjarvis
                                    last edited by

                                    @rdjarvis, so when you arm, the motors are spinning at idle rpm and rpms are not changing? Can you send me a short px4 log of this test?

                                    Did you update px4 params for voxl esc min and max rpms?

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                                    • rdjarvisR
                                      rdjarvis @Alex Kushleyev
                                      last edited by

                                      @Alex-Kushleyev yes motors spin when armed and respond appropriately to pitch, yaw and roll inputs (motors slowing and speeding up)

                                      We have exhausted our efforts for this evening and will re-attack in the morning.

                                      Thank you for all the help with hunting down these issues. We appreciate it and understand the frustration with these things.

                                      Thank you,
                                      RDJ

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                                      • Alex KushleyevA
                                        Alex Kushleyev ModalAI Team @rdjarvis
                                        last edited by

                                        @rdjarvis , based on your latest post, it seems the motors are spinning and responding to roll, pitch, yaw inputs, so i think the remaining issues may be in PX4 params.

                                        By the way, I also wanted to mention, we have a fork of px4 flight review tool here : https://github.com/modalai/px4-flight-review . There is a quickstart guide in readme how to run this locally. Our version allows you to display ESC data such as commanded and actual RPMs, ESC temperatures, individual motor currents (where available) and total battery current.

                                        By the way, since you are probably not using an APM for voltage/current monitoring, you should set (or double check) the voxl_esc px4 driver to publish the voltage/current measurement, using VOXL_ESC_PUB_BST set to 1 .Then you will see the battery voltage and total current in battery status. (however if you are using APM, then you dont need that, set to 0)

                                        Alex

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                                        • rdjarvisR
                                          rdjarvis @Alex Kushleyev
                                          last edited by rdjarvis

                                          @Alex-Kushleyev We are using the supplied PM from ModalAI C11 dev kit.

                                          Tested this morning. All VOXL2 systems good.

                                          Arm/Disarmed-Good
                                          Arm/Motor Kill-Good

                                          Arm/Manual-Throttle Increase on RC Controller, UAV motors do not respond proportional to RC inputs. When throttle is increases, motors perform a very slow increase in RPM that does achieve flight. RPMs stay very low.

                                          Could you point us to the PX4 params that we should be looking at to verify proper configuration?

                                          Screenshot 2024-04-18 134704.png

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                                          • Alex KushleyevA
                                            Alex Kushleyev ModalAI Team @rdjarvis
                                            last edited by Alex Kushleyev

                                            @rdjarvis , besides the PID tuning params, you need to make sure the min and max rpms in PX4 match what you have in esc params: VOXL_ESC_RPM_MIN and VOXL_ESC_RPM_MAX. did you set these PX4 params to 4000 and 40000? (btw in your test, was the motor able to reach 40K rpm? with my more aggressive prop, i think i had about 35K max).

                                            It is not a big deal if your ESC param in the ESC itself has maximum rpm that is higher than the motor can achieve. The ESC will just try to apply 100% power and will reach whatever rpm the motor can run at 100% power. But in PX4 params, you need to make sure that you set the maximum rpm that is actually achievable, otherwise PX4 will request the rpm that ESC cannot achieve and the drone will be less stable at maximum thrust.

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