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    Recommended bulk capacitance used for the VDC_5V_LOCAL_USB rail for a USB 3.0 device?

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      Moderator ModalAI Team
      last edited by 17 Jul 2023, 17:54

      Do you have a recommended bulk capacitance used for the VDC_5V_LOCAL_USB rail for a USB 3.0 device? I experienced a brownout issue when connecting a USB 3.0 ethernet adapter and I'm trying to figure out what caused it.

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        Vinny ModalAI Team @Moderator
        last edited by 17 Jul 2023, 19:44

        @Moderator
        That port is capable of providing 2A at 5V from a SW controlled GPIO (GPIO_157).
        I'm surprised you would experience a brown-out from a USB to ETH adapter.
        On Voxl2, we provide a 10uF and a 1uF cap right at the 60-pin J3 connector.
        If you are doing a custom adapter, and to meet USB3 specs, you should not need much more capacitance.

        However, if you have a long length before your mating connector, a good 10-22uF would be wise.
        We provide a 100uF cap on all of our USB ports that mate to Voxl2 (M0090 5G Modem Plug-in card, for example), but it is also due to a USB switch to help manage the ON time during enumeration.

        Back to your specific issue, I would double check you are not toggling GPIO_157, or that your connection is solid and not intermittent.
        I cannot find specific ETH dongle power consumption specs online, but it is likely using a LAN7801 or similar type device plus a PHY, which would not exceed more than a few hundred mA combined with magnetics:
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        So a brown out does not seem likely here. Even a 500mA USB2 rated device has no issue powering these types of dongles.

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