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Inquiry: Starling 2 Max — ROS2 / Jetson Orin Nano & RFID integration

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  • Mustafa_CayciM Offline
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    Hello,

    We are interested in this drone

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    Starling 2 Max GPS-denied Development Dronewith Battery Pack and Controller / Dual 4k & Dual Tracking (C28) / WiFi and ELRS

    Product Specifications The Starling 2 Max is VOXL 2-powered, NDAA-compliant development drone supercharged by VOXL SDK specifically designed for computer vision-based, long-range dead reckoning with a 500g payload capacity. Powered by Blue UAS Framework autopilot, VOXL 2, the Starling 2 Max weighs 500g and boasts an im

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    ModalAI, Inc. (www.modalai.com)

    Regarding this

    "Open-source software: OpenCV, ROS 2, Docker, PX4 integrated flight controller"

    In our current development drone, we have a Jetson NVDIA Orin Nano running the ROS2 development nodes. Can it be run on this drone? Secondly we have an RFID reader connected to the Jetson Orin Nano in our hardware today. Is connectivity possible with your drone?

    Thank you,
    Mustafa

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    • Mustafa_CayciM Mustafa_Cayci

      Hello,

      We are interested in this drone

      Link Preview Image
      Starling 2 Max GPS-denied Development Dronewith Battery Pack and Controller / Dual 4k & Dual Tracking (C28) / WiFi and ELRS

      Product Specifications The Starling 2 Max is VOXL 2-powered, NDAA-compliant development drone supercharged by VOXL SDK specifically designed for computer vision-based, long-range dead reckoning with a 500g payload capacity. Powered by Blue UAS Framework autopilot, VOXL 2, the Starling 2 Max weighs 500g and boasts an im

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      ModalAI, Inc. (www.modalai.com)

      Regarding this

      "Open-source software: OpenCV, ROS 2, Docker, PX4 integrated flight controller"

      In our current development drone, we have a Jetson NVDIA Orin Nano running the ROS2 development nodes. Can it be run on this drone? Secondly we have an RFID reader connected to the Jetson Orin Nano in our hardware today. Is connectivity possible with your drone?

      Thank you,
      Mustafa

      Eric KatzfeyE Offline
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      Eric Katzfey
      ModalAI Team
      wrote last edited by
      #2

      @Mustafa_Cayci Yes, you can run ROS2 and OpenCV on a VOXL2. Can you give more details about the RFID reader? What type of I/O does it use? What type of software interfaces with the reader?

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      • Eric KatzfeyE Eric Katzfey

        @Mustafa_Cayci Yes, you can run ROS2 and OpenCV on a VOXL2. Can you give more details about the RFID reader? What type of I/O does it use? What type of software interfaces with the reader?

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        @Eric-Katzfey Currently the RFID reader connects to Jetson using a USB cable. We have API to access the RFID reader and read the RFID tags. We then process them in ROS2 nodes.

        Does VOXL2 use Ubuntu Linux? Document also mentioned Docker. We should be able to load our docker image on VOXL2 as well.

        My other concern is the bulkiness of the RFID antenna. It is 15 cm by 15 cm. I am wondering how we would be able to mount on the drone.

        Mustafa

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        • Mustafa_CayciM Mustafa_Cayci

          @Eric-Katzfey Currently the RFID reader connects to Jetson using a USB cable. We have API to access the RFID reader and read the RFID tags. We then process them in ROS2 nodes.

          Does VOXL2 use Ubuntu Linux? Document also mentioned Docker. We should be able to load our docker image on VOXL2 as well.

          My other concern is the bulkiness of the RFID antenna. It is 15 cm by 15 cm. I am wondering how we would be able to mount on the drone.

          Mustafa

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          Eric Katzfey
          ModalAI Team
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          @Mustafa_Cayci You would need an accessory board that exposes a USB port for you to connect. Yes, VOXL2 has Ubuntu / Docker capability.

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          • Eric KatzfeyE Eric Katzfey

            @Mustafa_Cayci You would need an accessory board that exposes a USB port for you to connect. Yes, VOXL2 has Ubuntu / Docker capability.

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            wrote last edited by
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            @Eric-Katzfey said in Inquiry: Starling 2 Max — ROS2 / Jetson Orin Nano & RFID integration:

            accessory board that exposes a USB port for you to connect.

            Hi @Eric-Katzfey Just to confirm ... you are referring to this page where there are those boards mentioned.

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            Expansion Boards

            ModalAI technical documentation for VOXL and VOXL 2 Companion Computers for PX4 and ArduPilot Obstacle Avoidance and GPS-denied navigation, assembled in the USA

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            ModalAI Technical Docs (docs.modalai.com)

            I need one USB-C and two USB 3.0 ports so total 3 ports. Is there one board that allows three ports? Or do I need to one or more boards?

            Secondly I am connecting PixHawk to Jetson today with Ethernet connection to minimize the data bottleneck. How do I do this with VOXL2?

            Thank you for your time.

            Mustafa

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            • Mustafa_CayciM Mustafa_Cayci

              @Eric-Katzfey said in Inquiry: Starling 2 Max — ROS2 / Jetson Orin Nano & RFID integration:

              accessory board that exposes a USB port for you to connect.

              Hi @Eric-Katzfey Just to confirm ... you are referring to this page where there are those boards mentioned.

              Link Preview Image
              Expansion Boards

              ModalAI technical documentation for VOXL and VOXL 2 Companion Computers for PX4 and ArduPilot Obstacle Avoidance and GPS-denied navigation, assembled in the USA

              favicon

              ModalAI Technical Docs (docs.modalai.com)

              I need one USB-C and two USB 3.0 ports so total 3 ports. Is there one board that allows three ports? Or do I need to one or more boards?

              Secondly I am connecting PixHawk to Jetson today with Ethernet connection to minimize the data bottleneck. How do I do this with VOXL2?

              Thank you for your time.

              Mustafa

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              Eric Katzfey
              ModalAI Team
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              @Mustafa_Cayci You can run PX4 directly on VOXL2. Do you still need the external Pixhawk? When you say USB-C is that the connector that is already on VOXL3 for adb?

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              • Eric KatzfeyE Eric Katzfey

                @Mustafa_Cayci You can run PX4 directly on VOXL2. Do you still need the external Pixhawk? When you say USB-C is that the connector that is already on VOXL3 for adb?

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                Hi @Eric-Katzfey,

                I did not realize that the VOXL2 has already built in PX4 as well as Qualcomm AI Engine. Effectively, it replaces our Jetson Orin Nano all together.

                Is J9 USB-C connector shown in the following screen capture?

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                Mustafa

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                • Mustafa_CayciM Mustafa_Cayci

                  Hi @Eric-Katzfey,

                  I did not realize that the VOXL2 has already built in PX4 as well as Qualcomm AI Engine. Effectively, it replaces our Jetson Orin Nano all together.

                  Is J9 USB-C connector shown in the following screen capture?

                  1927e0f7-bb17-44f1-bb8a-a12d935df1f0-image.png

                  Mustafa

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                  ModalAI Team
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                  @Mustafa_Cayci Yes, J9 is shown. That is for an adb connection. What were you intending to use it for?

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                  • Eric KatzfeyE Eric Katzfey

                    @Mustafa_Cayci Yes, J9 is shown. That is for an adb connection. What were you intending to use it for?

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                    @Eric-Katzfey I have an Orbbec depth camera (USB‑C) that we use for object detection and AprilTag detection. Do we still need the Orbbec camera, or do the Starling 2 or Stinger already include a depth camera?

                    Thank you,
                    Mustafa

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                    • Mustafa_CayciM Mustafa_Cayci

                      @Eric-Katzfey I have an Orbbec depth camera (USB‑C) that we use for object detection and AprilTag detection. Do we still need the Orbbec camera, or do the Starling 2 or Stinger already include a depth camera?

                      Thank you,
                      Mustafa

                      Eric KatzfeyE Offline
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                      ModalAI Team
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                      @Mustafa_Cayci You can get the Starling 2 Max with a ToF sensor for depth mapping indoors (The sensors don't really work outdoors). https://www.modalai.com/products/starling-2-max?variant=49129974923568

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