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      bendraper @Alex Kushleyev
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      @Alex-Kushleyev I saw a post from @tom from a few years ago discussing how there should be the necessary drivers to support an RNDIS gadget so I assume that is my issue. Any insight on how to enable that?

      [Apr 1 19:15] configfs-gadget gadget: Wrong NDP SIGN
      [ +12.232553] usbpd usbpd0: Type-C Source (default) connected
      [  +0.019411] usbpd usbpd0: USB Type-C disconnect
      [  +0.004363] android_work: sent uevent USB_STATE=DISCONNECTED
      [  +0.001100] msm-dwc3 a600000.ssusb: DWC3 in low power mode
      [  +3.492478] usbpd usbpd0: Type-C Source (medium - 1.5A) connected
      [  +0.113740] msm-usb-ssphy-qmp 88e8000.ssphy: USB DP QMP PHY: Update TYPEC CTRL(3)
      [  +0.057403] msm-dwc3 a600000.ssusb: DWC3 exited from low power mode
      [  +0.068603] usbpd usbpd0: Type-C Source (high - 3.0A) connected
      [  +0.238255] android_work: sent uevent USB_STATE=CONNECTED
      [  +0.041534] configfs-gadget gadget: high-speed config #1: c
      [  +0.000644] android_work: sent uevent USB_STATE=CONFIGURED
      [  +0.195765] usbpd usbpd0: Type-C Source (medium - 1.5A) connected
      [  +0.021780] usbpd usbpd0: Type-C Source (high - 3.0A) connected
      [  +0.179818] configfs-gadget gadget: Wrong NDP SIGN
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      • Alex KushleyevA
        Alex Kushleyev ModalAI Team @bendraper
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        @bendraper , If you see an ethernet connection to VOXL2 show up on your Windows host, then the usb gadget is properly configured on VOXL2. Perhaps something else is going on. Are you assigning a static ip on your host that is on the same subnet as VOXL2?

        You should try to repeat the same test on a linux machine (or virtual machine) to see if you can get a working connection.

        Alex

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          bendraper @Alex Kushleyev
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          @Alex-Kushleyev Yea I can get a connection on a linux machine with no issue. I do need to get it working on a Windows machine for my purposes though. I definitely have the static IP setup correctly. I tried populating the gateway and also not populating it. I confirmed in powershell that there is indeed a route present for that traffic, but they do not want to communicate with each other. Some quick research seems to suggest Windows is very finicky with the CDC NCM protocol and it is more suited to work with an RNDIS interface. Were you able to ping/ssh to a voxl via an ethernet interface on the usb-c port to a windows machine using just the commands you listed above in this post?

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          • Alex KushleyevA
            Alex Kushleyev ModalAI Team @bendraper
            last edited by

            @bendraper , I just tried this on a Windows 11 VM and even though i was able to see a network device appear in the VM and i configured the IPv4 properties, I cannot ping or ssh. It seems consistent with what you are seeing.

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              bendraper @Alex Kushleyev
              last edited by

              @Alex-Kushleyev It looks like someone on the forums maybe had success setting up the interface as an RNDIS gadget. I'll try to mess with it some more but let me know if you find a solution. Thanks!

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              • Alex KushleyevA
                Alex Kushleyev ModalAI Team @bendraper
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                @bendraper , I will ask around.

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                  bendraper @Alex Kushleyev
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                  @Alex-Kushleyev So I can see a gadget functionality called gsi.rndis (I'd expect something called rndis.0 or something but maybe that is irrelevant) but when I change the line in /sbin/usb/compositions/901D to use gsi.rndis instead of ncm.0, my network interface on windows disappears and I can no longer ADB. I'd imagine there's something at the kernal level that doesn't like that but I'm out of my wheelhouse there. Setting it back to ncm.0 returns to the previous state but still cannot ping. Wireshark doesn't even see anything happening over that interface

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                  • Zachary Lowell 0Z
                    Zachary Lowell 0 ModalAI Team
                    last edited by

                    Hi All - gonna spend a bit of time looking into this today so I can get some context on the problem.

                    Zach

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                          qt @Alex Kushleyev
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                          @Alex-Kushleyev
                          That's not perfect but I created a shell script based on https://docs.modalai.com/qgc-via-adb/ for the drone configuraiton.
                          For my PC configuration, I created an udev rule to force an interface name since usb0 is renamed in "enx******". My udev rule can only work with my drone (I think). To define IP address, I add a conf file in /etc/systemd/network/
                          I have only tested on my linux and it works perfectly :

                          #!/usr/bin/env bash
                          set -euo pipefail
                          
                          # See ModalAI doc : https://docs.modalai.com/qgc-via-adb/
                          
                          UDEV_RULE_DRONE="/etc/udev/rules.d/80-usb-ncm.rules"
                          UDEV_RULE_PC="/etc/udev/rules.d/99-voxl-usb-ncm.rules"
                          SYSTEMD_CONF_PC="/etc/systemd/network/10-voxl0.network"
                          
                          USB_COMP_QUALCOM="/sbin/usb/compositions/901D"
                          
                          # Network configuration
                          USB_IFACE="usb0"
                          USB_NET="192.168.7.0/24"
                          PC_IP="192.168.7.1"
                          DRONE_IP="192.168.7.2"
                          NM_CONN_NAME="voxl-usb-ncm"
                          
                          show_help() {
                              echo "Usage: $0 [--pc] [--drone] [--uninstall]"
                              echo
                              echo "Enable USB NCM networking for ModalAI VOXL / Starling 2 Max"
                              echo
                              echo "Options:"
                              echo "  --pc         Configure host PC only"
                              echo "  --drone      Configure drone via adb only"
                              echo "  --uninstall  Remove configuration"
                              echo "  --help       Show this help"
                              echo
                              echo "Defaults: if neither --pc nor --drone is provided, both are processed."
                          }
                          
                          do_pc_install() {
                              echo "[INFO][PC] Installing udev rule for VOXL USB NCM"
                          
                              cat > "$UDEV_RULE_PC" <<EOF
                          SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", ATTRS{idVendor}=="05c6", ATTRS{idProduct}=="901d", ATTRS{serial}=="890d035c", NAME="voxl0"
                          EOF
                          
                              echo "[INFO][PC] Creating systemd-networkd config for voxl0"
                          
                              cat > "$SYSTEMD_CONF_PC" <<EOF
                          [Match]
                          Name=voxl0
                          
                          [Network]
                          Address=${PC_IP}/24
                          LinkLocalAddressing=no
                          IPv6AcceptRA=no
                          EOF
                          
                              echo "[INFO][PC] Reloading udev rules"
                              udevadm control --reload-rules
                              udevadm trigger
                          
                              echo "[INFO][PC] Restarting systemd-networkd"
                              systemctl restart systemd-networkd
                          
                              echo "[INFO][PC] PC installation complete"
                          }
                          
                          do_pc_uninstall() {
                              echo "[INFO][PC] Removing PC configuration"
                          
                              if [ -f "$UDEV_RULE_PC" ]; then
                                rm -f "$UDEV_RULE_PC"
                                echo "[INFO][PC] Removed udev rule"
                              fi
                          
                              if [ -f "$SYSTEMD_CONF_PC" ]; then
                                rm -f "$SYSTEMD_CONF_PC"
                                echo "[INFO][PC] Removed systemd-networkd config"
                              fi
                          
                              echo "[INFO][PC] Reloading udev rules"
                              udevadm control --reload-rules
                              udevadm trigger
                          
                              echo "[INFO][PC] Restarting systemd-networkd"
                              systemctl restart systemd-networkd
                          
                              echo "[INFO][PC] PC uninstallation complete"
                          }
                          
                          do_drone_install() {
                              echo "[INFO][DRONE] Enabling USB NCM networking on VOXL via adb"
                          
                              adb root
                              adb remount
                          
                              echo "[INFO][DRONE] Updating USB composition in Qualcomm script \
                          $USB_COMP_QUALCOM configure the usb gadget with \
                          the addition of the function NCM"
                              echo "[INFO][DRONE] In $USB_COMP_QUALCOM, \
                          add the line 'ln -s functions/ncm.0 configs/c.1/f3 2>/dev/null | true' \
                          just after the line 'ln -s functions/ffs.adb configs/c.1/f2'"
                              
                              adb shell "sed -i '/ln -s functions\\/ffs.adb configs\\/c.1\\/f2/a \
                              \\        ln -s functions\\/ncm.0 configs\\/c.1\\/f3 2>\\/dev\\/null | true' \
                              $USB_COMP_QUALCOM"
                          
                              echo "[INFO][DRONE] Creating udev rule $UDEV_RULE_DRONE for usb0 with IP ${DRONE_IP}"
                              
                              adb shell "cat << 'EOF' > $UDEV_RULE_DRONE
                          ACTION==\"add\", SUBSYSTEM==\"net\", KERNEL==\"usb0\", \
                          RUN+=\"/bin/sh -c 'sleep 2; /sbin/ifconfig usb0 ${DRONE_IP} netmask 255.255.255.0 up'\"
                          EOF"
                          
                              echo "[INFO][DRONE] NCM enabled — reboot required"
                          }
                          
                          do_drone_uninstall() {
                              echo "[INFO][DRONE] Removing NCM configuration"
                          
                              adb root
                              adb remount
                          
                              echo "[INFO][DRONE] Removing udev rule $UDEV_RULE_DRONE"
                              adb shell "rm -f $UDEV_RULE_DRONE || true"
                          
                              echo "[INFO][DRONE] Reverting USB composition (901D)"
                              adb shell "
                              sed -i '/ln -s functions\\/ncm.0 configs\\/c.1\\/f3/d' \
                              $USB_COMP_QUALCOM
                              "
                          
                              echo "[INFO][DRONE] USB NCM configuration removed"
                              echo "[INFO][DRONE] Reboot required to fully apply changes"
                          }
                          
                          
                          # Arg parsing
                          TARGET_PC=false
                          TARGET_DRONE=false
                          DO_UNINSTALL=false
                          
                          for arg in "$@"; do
                            case "$arg" in
                              --help) show_help; exit 0 ;;
                              --pc) TARGET_PC=true ;;
                              --drone) TARGET_DRONE=true ;;
                              --uninstall) DO_UNINSTALL=true ;;
                              *)
                                echo "[ERROR] Unknown argument: $arg";
                                show_help;
                                exit 1 ;;
                            esac
                          done
                          
                          # Default to both if none selected
                          if ! $TARGET_PC && ! $TARGET_DRONE; then
                            TARGET_PC=true
                            TARGET_DRONE=true
                          fi
                          
                          # Execute
                          if $DO_UNINSTALL; then
                            $TARGET_PC && do_pc_uninstall
                            $TARGET_DRONE && do_drone_uninstall
                          else
                            $TARGET_PC && do_pc_install
                            $TARGET_DRONE && do_drone_install
                          fi
                          
                          echo "[INFO] All done."
                          ``
                          
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                            bendraper @Zachary Lowell 0
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                            @Zachary-Lowell-0 Hey Zach did you discover anything in this effort? I played around with recompiling the kernel to include the CONFIG_USB_CONFIGFS_RNDIS=y flag and confirmed it took on my Voxl 2 Mini, and can see the existence of a new rndis.rndis function in the usb gadget functions directory, but when I try to reconfigure the 901D config file, I end up just breaking the USB port entirely.

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                            • Zachary Lowell 0Z
                              Zachary Lowell 0 ModalAI Team
                              last edited by

                              @qt said in PX4 -> QGC connection through USB for VOXL2:

                              name

                              @bendraper I kind of redid exactly what you described above and ran into very similar issue in the sense that it basically rocked my usb-c port. All this to say, I think we should choose a different route - is it possible instead to route the packets via adb over the USB-C port instead to basically get the same result? Point the software to the serial connection and leverage ADB to pull the packets that are forwarded? Basically creating our own sudo rndis connection almost.

                              Zach

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                                bendraper @Zachary Lowell 0
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                                @Zachary-Lowell-0 This would probably work but for my use case I cannot guarantee ADB being an option unfortunately.

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                                • Alex KushleyevA
                                  Alex Kushleyev ModalAI Team @bendraper
                                  last edited by Alex Kushleyev

                                  @bendraper , have you considered running a docker container (VM) on your Windows machine with a minimal Linux kernel that would use the Linux drivers for NCM and create the proper network connection between VOXL2 and Linux container. Then you could potentially set up the routing table in Windows so that it can access the device via the Linux container and linux container may need to have some networking magic down as well to pass through the communication?

                                  Alex

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                                  • Zachary Lowell 0Z
                                    Zachary Lowell 0 ModalAI Team
                                    last edited by

                                    ^^^ This is the next best option outside of ADB IMO - nice suggestion @Alex-Kushleyev

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