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    • Alex KushleyevA
      Alex Kushleyev ModalAI Team @Alex Kushleyev
      last edited by

      @cguzikowski ,

      Can you please clarify what you meant by the following statement in your previous post:

      "Also as a side note, the metadata seems to not be recording when using voxl-record-raw-image -j"

      Thanks!

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      • Alex KushleyevA
        Alex Kushleyev ModalAI Team @Alex Kushleyev
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        FYI the voxl-mpa-tools updates have been merged to dev (including the jpeg saving option and option to save timestamp, exposure, gain in the filename -- i think that is what you were referring to). One small change, the timestamp in the filename changed from milliseconds to microseconds.

        https://gitlab.com/voxl-public/voxl-sdk/utilities/voxl-mpa-tools/-/tree/dev

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          cguzikowski @Alex Kushleyev
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          @Alex-Kushleyev I have been doing some tests and the updates to the camera server and mpa tools seem to work great, thank you! What I meant about the metadata not recording is this data only shows up when using the snapshot command, and does not show up when using the jpeg flag in the voxl-record-raw-image command:
          10650ae7-c508-412d-9703-7f642cc0935b-image.png

          Also noticed the auto exposure doesn't seem to settle unless the camera's feed is opened on the voxl-portal. Here are two images I took - voxl-camera-server was running for a considerable time before taking either one.

          Before looking at the live stream in the portal:
          eaa611d2-5871-4efa-a1cb-1bb672ea6040-image.png

          After looking at the stream in the portal for a few seconds (I could see the exposure settle down)
          53216d92-cc91-4466-b1a0-83677d014d5f-image.png

          Didn't mess with voxl-camera-server at all in between taking the two images.

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          • Alex KushleyevA
            Alex Kushleyev ModalAI Team @cguzikowski
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            @cguzikowski ,

            We can add the jpeg meta to the jpeg file saved from voxl-record-raw-image. which fields specifically are good to have?

            Also, regarding the exposure settling - can you please provide the exact configuration you are running? specifically, which are enabled (misp, small_video, snapshot) and is auto exposure set to "isp" or not -- maybe provide a camera server config? When using MISP, i believe there is a case that if none of the streams are being used, the AE won't run, but we can fix this for the case of enabled snapshot.

            Alex

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              cguzikowski @Alex Kushleyev
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              @Alex-Kushleyev Our application doesn't specifically need the metadata, just figured I should point it out in case it was intended to be there. It may be useful to have shutter speed, ISO, aperture, and date/time though.

              Ah yes that seems to be the issue, we are using MISP, preview, and snapshot. It would be useful to have the AE run without us viewing the stream. Here is the conf file:

              {
              	"version":	0.1,
              	"fsync_en":	false,
              	"fsync_gpio":	109,
              	"cameras":	[{
              			"type":	"boson",
              			"name":	"boson",
              			"enabled":	true,
              			"camera_id":	0,
              			"fps":	30,
              			"en_preview":	true,
              			"en_misp":	true,
              			"preview_width":	640,
              			"preview_height":	512,
              			"en_raw_preview":	true,
              			"en_small_video":	false,
              			"en_large_video":	false,
              			"ae_mode":	"off",
              			"en_rotate":	false,
              			"misp_width":	512,
              			"misp_height":	640,
              			"misp_venc_enable":	true,
              			"misp_venc_mode":	"h264",
              			"misp_venc_br_ctrl":	"cqp",
              			"misp_venc_Qfixed":	30,
              			"misp_venc_Qmin":	15,
              			"misp_venc_Qmax":	50,
              			"misp_venc_nPframes":	29,
              			"misp_venc_mbps":	2,
              			"misp_venc_osd":	false,
              			"misp_awb":	"off",
              			"misp_gamma":	1,
              			"misp_zoom":	1,
              			"gain_min":	100,
              			"gain_max":	100
              		}, {
              			"type":	"ov64b",
              			"name":	"hires",
              			"enabled":	true,
              			"camera_id":	1,
              			"fps":	30,
              			"en_preview":	true,
              			"en_misp":	true,
              			"preview_width":	9216,
              			"preview_height":	6912,
              			"en_raw_preview":	true,
              			"en_small_video":	false,
              			"en_large_video":	false,
              			"en_snapshot":	true,
              			"ae_mode":	"isp",
              			"gain_min":	100,
              			"gain_max":	100,
              			"misp_width":	9216,
              			"misp_height":	6912,
              			"misp_venc_enable":	false,
              			"misp_venc_mode":	"h265",
              			"misp_venc_br_ctrl":	"cqp",
              			"misp_venc_Qfixed":	38,
              			"misp_venc_Qmin":	15,
              			"misp_venc_Qmax":	50,
              			"misp_venc_nPframes":	29,
              			"misp_venc_mbps":	30,
              			"misp_venc_osd":	false,
              			"misp_awb":	"auto",
              			"misp_gamma":	1,
              			"misp_zoom":	1,
              			"ae_desired_msv":	75,
              			"exposure_min_us":	1000,
              			"exposure_max_us":	1001,
              			"exposure_soft_min_us":	5000,
              			"ae_filter_alpha":	0.6,
              			"ae_ignore_fraction":	0.2,
              			"ae_slope":	0.1,
              			"ae_exposure_period":	1,
              			"ae_gain_period":	1,
              			"max_request_queue_depth":	6,
              			"en_snapshot_width":	9216,
              			"en_snapshot_height":	6912,
              			"exif_focal_length":	3.1,
              			"exif_focal_length_in_35mm_format":	17,
              			"exif_fnumber":	1.24,
              			"snapshot_jpeg_quality":	90
              		}]
              }
              
              
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              • Alex KushleyevA
                Alex Kushleyev ModalAI Team @cguzikowski
                last edited by

                @cguzikowski , got it, thanks for the clarification. I will add a camera server config param that would force the auto exposure to run all the time, regardless of whether the streams are used or not. this should be simple.

                Also, i was wondering if you decided that the ISP snapshot is good enough for you or you want to explore saving the RAW bayer and processing offline? We have been experimenting with some approaches for offline processing and I can share some scripts, which have some flexibility on how much to de-noise , sharpen, etc. I am also going to add the LSC (lens shading correction) for the offline processing (and later into real-time misp pipeline) to correct for those artifacts that you saw where the colors change across the image.

                Alex

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                  cguzikowski @Alex Kushleyev
                  last edited by cguzikowski

                  @Alex-Kushleyev Sorry for the delayed response, but I believe the ISP snapshots are good enough quality for us, but could I still get the scripts to mess around and test with?

                  Also is the most recent camera server here the version with the auto-auto exposure? If so, what is the parameter to use to activate that?

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                    cguzikowski @Alex Kushleyev
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                    @Alex-Kushleyev Also just noticed the vertical artifact again. The artifact is only present in the snapshots and not the raw images saved as jpeg - will definitely need those post processing scripts now.

                    Here is the raw image:
                    5b9ca86b-79b0-4ca3-a317-7c0365efd312-image.png

                    And here is the snapshot:
                    2a55882f-b782-4044-8d5d-f0bd7cbe4881-image.png

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                    • Alex KushleyevA
                      Alex Kushleyev ModalAI Team @cguzikowski
                      last edited by

                      @cguzikowski , thanks for following up.

                      I don't know why the ISP is outputting the jpeg with the issue - that is outside of our area of expertise. It could be a bug in the ISP or JPEG encoder.

                      I will get together some scripts i have been using for testing. I need add the LSC (lens shading correction) otherwise the colors look wrong and also image gets darker towards the edges. In order to apply LSC correction, we need a map (either look-up table or a poly fit) of each channel's response as a function of pixel coordinate (or radius) -- this needs to be calibrated (not for each camera module, but for each camera type + lens type). So after the calibration, my results should apply to your camera as well.

                      I will follow up early next week.

                      Alex

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                      • Alex KushleyevA
                        Alex Kushleyev ModalAI Team @Alex Kushleyev
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                        @cguzikowski , quick question for you. For your application, does it matter how much time (reasonable) it takes to debayer the image? some of my offline processing scripts are not optimized for real-time operation, but are very flexible to use and the full resolution image from ov64b is huge and it may take a few seconds to process without optimizations.

                        We also have opencl code that runs offline pretty quick on an nvidia GPU, but it does not have as many tuning knobs.

                        I guess it all depends on whether you are using the images right on the voxl2 or just collecting and analyzing offline at a later time.

                        Alex

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                          cguzikowski @Alex Kushleyev
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                          @Alex-Kushleyev Thanks for the follow up and working towards the calibration map. For us the real time processing speed doesn't matter too much, but the image file size does as we need to send the unprocessed images over radio in real time. We were hoping to use voxl-record-raw -j -q 90 as this doesn't show the vertical artifact and results in reasonable file sizes.

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                            cguzikowski @Alex Kushleyev
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                            @Alex-Kushleyev Hi Alex, just following up to see if it would be possible to get those image processing scripts. Also we have been trying to get the Hadron working on another voxl2 and have followed the same steps you gave before and we are using the same camera server. The boson seems to be working, but the hires camera does not. When both are enabled the camera server starts up and then immediately says "aborted". With the boson disabled I see the following output from voxl-camera-server:

                            MISP channels enabled in defaults : 0
                            MISP channels enabled in config file: 0
                            Setting MISP AWB to Auto
                            MISP channels enabled in defaults : 0
                            MISP channels enabled in config file: 0
                            max request queue depth: 6
                            =================================================================
                            configuration for 2 cameras:
                            
                            cam #0
                                name:                boson
                                type:                boson
                                bayer_type:          0
                                enabled:             0
                                camera_id:           0
                                camera_id_second:    -1
                                fps:                 30
                                en_rotate:           0
                                en_rotate2:          0
                            
                                en_preview:          1
                                en_raw_preview:      1
                                preview_width:       640
                                preview_height:      512
                            
                                en_misp:             1
                                misp_width:          512
                                misp_height:         640
                            
                                en_small_video:      0
                                small_video_width:   640
                                small_video_height:  480
                            
                                en_large_video:      0
                                large_video_width:   -1
                                large_video_height:  -1
                            
                                en_snapshot:         0
                                snap_width:          -1
                                snap_height:         -1
                                exif_focal_length:   0.000000
                                exif_focal_len_35mm_format:0
                                exif_fnumber:        0.000000
                            
                                ae_mode:             off
                                msv_exposure_min_us: 20
                                msv_exposure_max_us: 33000
                                gain_min           : 100
                                gain_max           : 100
                                standby_enabled:     0
                                decimator:           1
                                independent_exposure:0
                            
                            cam #1
                                name:                hires
                                type:                ov64b
                                bayer_type:          1
                                enabled:             1
                                camera_id:           1
                                camera_id_second:    -1
                                fps:                 30
                                en_rotate:           0
                                en_rotate2:          0
                            
                                en_preview:          1
                                en_raw_preview:      1
                                preview_width:       9216
                                preview_height:      6944
                            
                                en_misp:             1
                                misp_width:          9216
                                misp_height:         6944
                            
                                en_small_video:      0
                                small_video_width:   1024
                                small_video_height:  768
                            
                                en_large_video:      0
                                large_video_width:   3840
                                large_video_height:  2160
                            
                                en_snapshot:         0
                                snap_width:          3840
                                snap_height:         2160
                                exif_focal_length:   3.100000
                                exif_focal_len_35mm_format:17
                                exif_fnumber:        1.240000
                            
                                ae_mode:             isp
                                msv_exposure_min_us: 20
                                msv_exposure_max_us: 33000
                                gain_min           : 100
                                gain_max           : 800
                                standby_enabled:     0
                                decimator:           1
                                independent_exposure:0
                            
                            fsync_en:            0
                            fsync_gpio:          109
                            =================================================================
                            thread is locked to cores: 4 5 6 7
                            connected to mavlink pipe
                            Connected to cpu-monitor
                            Skipping Camera: boson, configuration marked disabled
                            Starting Camera: hires (id #1)
                            ModalExposureMSV: initializing for camera name  type 
                            Estimated imu dt = 0.000976s
                            gbm_create_device(156): Info: backend name is: msm_drm
                            MISP Initializing for camera hires
                             Detected 1 platform(s)
                             Detected 1 GPU device(s)
                            ERROR in json_from_yaml, failed to open file
                            MISP: Loading intrinsics cal file hires_intrinsics.yml for camera hires, ret -1
                            WARNING: Lens calibration for camera hires is missing (hires_intrinsics.yml). Using defaults:
                            
                            ------ voxl-camera-server: Started 1 of 2 cameras
                            
                            ------ voxl-camera-server: Camera server is now running
                            ERROR:   Received "Result" error from camera: hires, frame number 0
                            ERROR:   Received "Buffer" error from camera: hires, frame number 0
                            WARNING: Pushed buffers back to pools for frame: 0
                            ERROR:   Received "Result" error from camera: hires, frame number 1
                            ERROR:   Received "Buffer" error from camera: hires, frame number 1
                            WARNING: Pushed buffers back to pools for frame: 1
                            ERROR:   Received "Result" error from camera: hires, frame number 2
                            ERROR:   Received "Buffer" error from camera: hires, frame number 2
                            WARNING: Pushed buffers back to pools for frame: 2
                            ERROR:   Received "Result" error from camera: hires, frame number 3
                            ERROR:   Received "Buffer" error from camera: hires, frame number 3
                            WARNING: Pushed buffers back to pools for frame: 3
                            ERROR:   Received "Result" error from camera: hires, frame number 4
                            ERROR:   Received "Buffer" error from camera: hires, frame number 4
                            WARNING: Pushed buffers back to pools for frame: 4
                            ERROR:   Received "Request" error from camera: hires, frame number 5
                            WARNING: Pushed buffers back to pools for frame: 5
                            ^C
                            received SIGINT Ctrl-C
                            
                            ------ voxl-camera-server: Camera server is now stopping
                            ------------------------------
                            Stats For Camera hires:
                            	 Received Frame Count: 12
                            	 Request  Error Count: 1
                            	 Buffer   Error Count: 5
                            	 Result   Error Count: 5
                            
                            ------ voxl-camera-server: Camera server exited gracefully, returning 0
                            
                            

                            Here is the output of voxl-version on the non-working voxl:

                            ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
                            system-image: 1.8.06-M0054-14.1a-perf
                            kernel:       #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Oct 22 03:21:50 UTC 2025 4.19.125
                            ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
                            hw platform:  M0054
                            mach.var:     1.0.0
                            SKU:          MCCA-M0054-C11-T0-M0-X0
                            ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
                            voxl-suite:   1.6.3
                            ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
                            Packages:
                            Repo:  http://voxl-packages.modalai.com/ ./dists/qrb5165/sdk-1.6/binary-arm64/
                            Last Updated: 2023-03-02 13:58:13
                            List:
                            libfc-sensor                   1.0.9
                            libmodal-cv                    0.6.0
                            libmodal-exposure              0.1.4
                            libmodal-flow                  1.0.3
                            libmodal-journal               0.2.7
                            libmodal-json                  0.4.8
                            libmodal-pipe                  2.14.11
                            libqrb5165-io                  0.6.3
                            libvoxl-cci-direct             0.3.3
                            libvoxl-codec                  0.0.2
                            libvoxl-cutils                 0.1.6
                            modalai-slpi                   1.2.2
                            mv-voxl                        0.1-r0
                            qrb5165-bind                   0.1-r0
                            qrb5165-dfs-server             0.2.0
                            qrb5165-mini-tof-server        0.2.2
                            qrb5165-rangefinder-server     0.1.6
                            qrb5165-slpi-test-sig          01-r0
                            qrb5165-tflite                 2.17.2
                            voxl-bind-spektrum             0.1.1
                            voxl-camera-calibration        0.6.1
                            voxl-camera-server             2.2.23-202604170806
                            voxl-ceres-solver              2:2.0.0-2
                            voxl-configurator              1.1.5
                            voxl-cpu-monitor               0.7.7
                            voxl-docker-support            1.3.1
                            voxl-elrs                      1.1.0
                            voxl-esc                       1.5.7
                            voxl-esptool                   0.2.0
                            voxl-feature-tracker           0.5.2
                            voxl-flow-server               0.3.6
                            voxl-gphoto2-server            0.0.10
                            voxl-imu-server                2.0.1
                            voxl-io-server                 0.0.8
                            voxl-jpeg-turbo                2.1.3-7
                            voxl-lepton-server             1.3.3
                            voxl-lepton-tracker            0.0.4
                            voxl-libgeographic             1.0.0
                            voxl-libgphoto2                0.0.4
                            voxl-libuvc                    1.0.7
                            voxl-logger                    0.6.1
                            voxl-mavcam-manager            0.6.0
                            voxl-mavlink                   0.1.6
                            voxl-mavlink-server            1.4.14
                            voxl-modem                     1.2.3
                            voxl-mongoose                  7.19.0
                            voxl-mpa-to-ros                0.3.9
                            voxl-mpa-tools                 1.5.8
                            voxl-nano-tracker              0.1.7
                            voxl-open-vins-server          0.6.0
                            voxl-opencv                    4.5.5-3
                            voxl-osd                       0.3.8
                            voxl-portal                    0.8.7
                            voxl-px4                       1.14.0-2.0.133
                            voxl-px4-params                0.9.0
                            voxl-qvio-server               1.2.3
                            voxl-remote-id                 0.0.9
                            voxl-reset-slpi                0.0.1
                            voxl-state-estimator           0.0.6
                            voxl-streamer                  0.8.0
                            voxl-suite                     1.6.3
                            voxl-tag-detector              0.1.0
                            voxl-tflite-server             0.5.1
                            voxl-utils                     2.0.2
                            voxl-uvc-server                0.1.7
                            voxl-vision-hub                1.9.21
                            voxl-vtx                       2.0.2
                            voxl-wavemux                   0.0.3
                            voxl2-io                       0.0.3
                            voxl2-security-hardening-utls  1.0-r0
                            voxl2-system-image             1.8.06-r0
                            voxl2-wlan                     1.0-r0
                            ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
                            

                            And here are the versions for the working voxl:

                            ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
                            system-image: 1.8.06-M0054-14.1a-perf
                            kernel:       #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Oct 22 04:13:18 UTC 2025 4.19.125
                            ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
                            hw platform:  M0054
                            mach.var:     1.0.1
                            SKU:          TF-M0054-4-V1-C11
                            ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
                            voxl-suite:   1.6.3
                            ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
                            Packages:
                            Repo:  http://voxl-packages.modalai.com/ ./dists/qrb5165/sdk-1.6/binary-arm64/
                            Last Updated: 2026-05-07 16:00:59
                            List:
                            libfc-sensor                   1.0.9
                            libmodal-cv                    0.6.0
                            libmodal-exposure              0.1.4
                            libmodal-flow                  1.0.3
                            libmodal-journal               0.2.7
                            libmodal-json                  0.4.8
                            libmodal-pipe                  2.14.11
                            libqrb5165-io                  0.6.3
                            libvoxl-cci-direct             0.3.3
                            libvoxl-codec                  0.0.2
                            libvoxl-cutils                 0.1.6
                            modalai-slpi                   1.2.2
                            mv-voxl                        0.1-r0
                            qrb5165-bind                   0.1-r0
                            qrb5165-dfs-server             0.2.0
                            qrb5165-mini-tof-server        0.2.2
                            qrb5165-rangefinder-server     0.1.6
                            qrb5165-slpi-test-sig          01-r0
                            qrb5165-tflite                 2.17.2
                            voxl-ardupilot                 4.8.0-8ed7441c
                            voxl-bind-spektrum             0.1.1
                            voxl-camera-calibration        0.6.1
                            voxl-camera-server             2.2.23-202604170806
                            voxl-ceres-solver              2:2.0.0-2
                            voxl-configurator              1.1.5
                            voxl-cpu-monitor               0.7.7
                            voxl-docker-support            1.3.1
                            voxl-elrs                      1.1.0
                            voxl-esc                       1.5.7
                            voxl-esptool                   0.2.0
                            voxl-feature-tracker           0.5.2
                            voxl-flow-server               0.3.6
                            voxl-gphoto2-server            0.0.10
                            voxl-imu-server                2.0.1
                            voxl-io-server                 0.0.8
                            voxl-jpeg-turbo                2.1.3-7
                            voxl-lepton-server             1.3.3
                            voxl-lepton-tracker            0.0.4
                            voxl-libgeographic             1.0.0
                            voxl-libgphoto2                0.0.4
                            voxl-libuvc                    1.0.7
                            voxl-logger                    0.6.1
                            voxl-mavcam-manager            0.6.0
                            voxl-mavlink                   0.1.6
                            voxl-mavlink-server            1.4.14
                            voxl-microdds-agent            3.0.0-0
                            voxl-modem                     1.2.3
                            voxl-mongoose                  7.19.0
                            voxl-mpa-to-ros                0.3.9
                            voxl-mpa-to-ros2               0.0.7
                            voxl-mpa-tools                 1.5.8
                            voxl-nano-tracker              0.1.7
                            voxl-open-vins-server          0.6.0
                            voxl-opencv                    4.5.5-3
                            voxl-osd                       0.3.8
                            voxl-portal                    0.8.7
                            voxl-px4                       1.14.0-2.0.133
                            voxl-px4-params                0.9.0
                            voxl-qvio-server               1.2.3
                            voxl-remote-id                 0.0.9
                            voxl-reset-slpi                0.0.1
                            voxl-ros2-foxy                 0.0.1
                            voxl-state-estimator           0.0.6
                            voxl-streamer                  0.8.0
                            voxl-suite                     1.6.3
                            voxl-tag-detector              0.1.0
                            voxl-tflite-server             0.5.1
                            voxl-utils                     2.0.2
                            voxl-uvc-server                0.1.7
                            voxl-vision-hub                1.9.21
                            voxl-vtx                       2.0.2
                            voxl-wavemux                   0.0.3
                            voxl2-io                       0.0.3
                            voxl2-security-hardening-utls  1.0-r0
                            voxl2-system-image             1.8.06-r0
                            voxl2-wlan                     1.0-r0
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                            The versions look to be the same for the most part, which is confusing us.

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