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    Starling v1 GPS Error

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      Eric Katzfey ModalAI Team @Sam Kiley
      last edited by 10 Jun 2024, 18:34

      @Sam-Kiley I'm not sure that comparing against a cell phone is valid. Some newer cell phones have dual band (L1 / L5) capability and also may augment with WiFi or other sources. Standard GPS L1 is supposed to give an accuracy within 3m to 5m. But 15 or more feet off from true location seems a bit much. We'll have to do some accuracy testing to see what we get at our test sites.

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        Eric Katzfey ModalAI Team @Sam Kiley
        last edited by 10 Jun 2024, 18:38

        @Sam-Kiley EKF can fuse measurements between GPS and External Vision (EV) (e.g. VIO). However, our parameter sets are separated between indoor parameters (VIO) and outdoor parameters (GPS). But you should be able to enable both at the same time and have EKF choose the best. We just haven't done that yet. With our current parameter sets we expect VIO for indoor use and GPS for outdoor use. Until we can generate and test a unified set of parameters you will have to undertake that exercise yourself if you want to combine GPS and VIO outdoors.

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          Sam Kiley
          last edited by 10 Jun 2024, 18:58

          Alright, I will look into the parameter sets. Could you point me in the direction of those parameter sets and how you typically swap them on the starling? I think I saw a post about something like that on this forum.

          I will also post a screenshot of my GPS error for your reference, as I do think its error is much higher than it should be. 15 ft might have been an understatement.

          thanks

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            Eric Katzfey ModalAI Team @Sam Kiley
            last edited by 10 Jun 2024, 19:11

            @Sam-Kiley How many satellites are you getting on average?

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              Eric Katzfey ModalAI Team @Sam Kiley
              last edited by Eric Katzfey 10 Jun 2024, 19:13 10 Jun 2024, 19:13

              @Sam-Kiley Our parameter sets are located here: https://gitlab.com/voxl-public/voxl-sdk/utilities/voxl-px4-params/-/tree/master/params/v1.14/EKF2_helpers?ref_type=heads. These can be loaded via QGC.

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                Sam Kiley
                last edited by 10 Jun 2024, 19:42

                probably around 8 satellites on average. Sometimes going up to 10. I also had difficulty getting any satellites after a reboot a few times. It took multiple minutes to see anything at all.

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                  Eric Katzfey ModalAI Team @Sam Kiley
                  last edited by 10 Jun 2024, 19:47

                  @Sam-Kiley Yeah, that doesn't seem right. In my backyard with some trees around and 2 story buildings I get at least 15, sometimes up to 22. But position does drift around and appears to be up to 15 ft off occasionally but usually within about 6 or 7 ft. But this is testing with VOXL 2 board and M10 GPS near it but not mounted on a drone. So will have to test on an actual Starling to see what I get with that. There is perhaps some interference being generated in it's mounted location on the Starling.

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                    Eric Katzfey ModalAI Team @Sam Kiley
                    last edited by 10 Jun 2024, 23:08

                    @Sam-Kiley Seems pretty clear that the plastic mount holding the GPS unit in place is degrading performance of the unit. We are investigating a new design for the GPS mount to help improve things.

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                      Sam Kiley @Eric Katzfey
                      last edited by 11 Jun 2024, 16:55

                      @Eric-Katzfey

                      Let me know what you figure out. Is your 3D filament something like Onyx, that has some sort of carbon in it?

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                        Dr.One @Eric Katzfey
                        last edited by 12 Jun 2024, 17:20

                        @Eric-Katzfey facing similar issues with our v1 drones. GNSS manufacturer recommends 10cm of distance from ESC/power lines/motors. Is there a location for cad files so we can modify the sensor mount and reprint it.

                        https://www.mateksys.com/?portfolio=m10-5883#tab-id-2

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