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    • IMX412 (M12 style) not connecting on HW sensor ID 3

      Hi,
      We are using the smaller IMX412 sensor (https://www.modalai.com/collections/accessories/products/msu-m0107?variant=45747768557872), and we noticed that this sensor was not able to be connected to while the older/larger version of this sensor connects to the same port without issue. Is this an known issue, or is there a way to solve this?
      Some information about the setup:
      We are running system image 1.6.2-M0054-14.1a-perf (SDK 1.0.0)
      We also are running camera binaries from system image 1.7.1 for the IMX412 specifically.
      We are connection 2 IMX412 cameras to hw sensor id's 2 and 3, and a tracking cam to hw sensor id 4.

      posted in VOXL Accessories
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    • RE: hi-res image quality difference VOXL and VOXL2

      Hi @Alex-Kushleyev
      Thanks for the clarifications! A little bit of context for what purpose we use the camera's. We do analysis on the images taken, this analysis consists of detecting smaller features like plants on the image, usually the size of a couple pixels, i think in the neighborhood of 20x20 pixels most often. The amount of light available is dependent on the day, but usually there is enough light available that we can use short exposure times. (the tests above were indeed done inside the office and not in the practical sense we would otherwise use the drones.) For our applications the pixel noise is not that much of an issue as long as the features are visible. The video encoder we on not use.
      As for the exposure times, these were set manually and not using the auto exposure as i thought this would be a fairer comparison. So in the images the gain was set to 400 and the exposure to 10ms, but the lighting conditions indoors are not that bight for the images, so the images were also somewhat darker than typically would be the case.
      The idea of being able to tune the camera would be interesting for us, but i expect that would take some time to implement, but we are looking forward to it.

      posted in Image Sensors
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    • RE: hi-res image quality difference VOXL and VOXL2

      Hi @Alex-Kushleyev,

      Thanks for the reaction, i tried the new camera binaries, and i think the images are better for it. Using the same features as before the image went from this:
      17_crop.jpg
      to this:
      19_crop.jpg
      There seems to be a bit more noise, but the quality of the image and especially the colors are better. I also tested on something closer by. old:
      23_crop.jpg
      new:
      20_crop.jpg
      Comparing these images it seems like before there was some kind of smoothing happening on the older version, that is now not happening anymore? also it seems that i need longer exposure times to reach the same brightness in the images. The resolution the camera server picks seems to be different from the config file. In the config file the resolution is set to 3000x4000.
      5be5132a-cf92-403d-b767-b8583a0b9ac6-image.png
      Also when the camera is set to be 3840x2160 in the config file the resolution seems to be different, but in both cases the images coming through the pipe are in the expected format. so i don't know if this is an issue?
      8e5cea41-ac85-4ed8-aa98-3d461acdfcb1-image.png

      posted in Image Sensors
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    • RE: hi-res image quality difference VOXL and VOXL2

      Is there by any change any news on this?

      posted in Image Sensors
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    • RE: hi-res image quality difference VOXL and VOXL2

      Hi @Alex-Kushleyev thanks for the reaction
      To clarify, both images are take using the voxl-logger (from the hires_color stream), both the video streams are disabled on both the VOXL1 and VOXL2. (Both images are a crop from the full image, because the full image was to big to upload, and most of the rest of the image was a white background.)
      The same camera is switched between the VOXL1 and the VOXL2, and the images are taken from the same distance to the object in the image.
      VOXL 1 was set to 3840 x 2160 resolution, and the FPS was set to 30
      VOXL2 was set to 4000 x 3000 resolution and the FPS was set to 15

      posted in Image Sensors
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    • hi-res image quality difference VOXL and VOXL2

      We are currently working with both the VOXL (SDK1.1.2) and the VOXL2 (SDK1.1.0) and we noticed some quality differences between the two platforms. The colors in the image taken with the VOXL (first image) seem to be better than on the VOXL2 (second image). Also the image seems to be more blurry on the VOXL2 while taken with the same camera (IMX412).
      Both platforms were set to hires only, with AE_MODE set to "isp".
      On the VOXL2 the camera is connected to HW sensor ID 2
      Is this a known isue? or is there a way to get the same quality on the VOXL2 as on the VOXL?
      voxl1_cropped.png
      voxl2_cropped.png
      We also noticed the snapshot on the VOXL not having the wierd artefact the VOXL2 has (as mentioned in this post https://forum.modalai.com/topic/2546/some-issues-with-voxl-camera-server-1-6-2?_=1707751139845)

      posted in Image Sensors
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    • RE: some issues with voxl-camera-server 1.6.2

      @Ariel-Young Thanks the new camera server works. The only thing is we still see the wierd repeating part in the image when using the snapshot function (top image), is this something you also see?

      posted in Ask your questions right here!
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    • some issues with voxl-camera-server 1.6.2

      with the new SDK 1.0.0 we wanted to use the new snapshot functionality on the voxl2, but we notice that the images seem to have a part in the image where the image repeats itself.
      Screenshot from 2023-08-08 16-05-00.png
      Is there a solution for this, or is this a known issue?
      This is something we see with both the IMX412 and the IMX214.

      Another thing we noticed was that the hires_color pipe shows images which are misdecoded,
      Screenshot from 2023-08-08 16-08-33.png
      but this seemed to be fixed in the latest stable branch on git. But now we noticed that only 1 camera can be active at a time using this version (voxl-camera-server 1.7.0). The tracking camera also seemed to return a clitched image:
      tracking_1691499466.png
      Is this version not ready for use yet? and if so is it known when this version is stable?

      posted in Ask your questions right here!
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    • RE: Image quality difference between Voxl and Voxl2

      The same quality difference is also seen in the IMX412 camera. where on the Voxl1, The image has less noise/looks sharper than on the Voxl2

      posted in Image Sensors
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    • Image quality difference between Voxl and Voxl2

      We have been working with the IMX214 image sensor on the Voxl and Voxl2, but we noticed there is a considerable difference in noise in the image between the 2 platforms, and also in the colour balancing.
      for example these 2 images are taken using the same camera on a Voxl:
      compressed.jpg
      and the Voxl2:
      compressed.jpg
      more zoomed in for comparrison Voxl:
      Screenshot from 2023-07-07 08-56-31.png
      Voxl2:
      Screenshot from 2023-07-07 08-57-00.png
      Is there a way to get the same image quality from both Voxl and Voxl2?
      We use the default settings ( voxl-configure-cameras 8 ) where we only change the resolution to 3840x2160.

      posted in Image Sensors
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