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  • E Eloi

    Dear,
    We are missing some dimensions from the cables to add them into our 3D model of a drone:

    https://docs.modalai.com/m0008/#3d-step-file and https://docs.modalai.com/m0008/#2d-diagram redirecting to the same web page and no 2D images of the dimensions.

    https://docs.modalai.com/m0010/#3d-step-file and https://docs.modalai.com/m0010/#2d-diagram redirecting to the same web page with 2D images but no dimensions.

    https://docs.modalai.com/m0036/#2d-diagram with 3D cad, but 2D images missing "heights", "accepted" as there is 3D model.

    https://docs.modalai.com/m0074/#3d-step-file without 3D CAD, but redirecting to the same web page with 2D images but no dimensions. What's the real lenght? it was 15cm for the 14.5cm extension cable. Is 6.5cm for the 6cm extension cable? (notice the oposite in lenghts and "product name")

    https://docs.modalai.com/m0076/#3d-step-file redirecting to the same web page with 2D images but no full dimensions, heigh of the board?

    https://docs.modalai.com/m0084/#2d-diagram with 2D images but no dimensions, "accepted" as there is 3D model.

    MFPC-M0040 extension cable for ToF sensor missing datasheet?

    Thanks!
    Eloi

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    Vinny
    ModalAI Team
    wrote on last edited by Vinny
    #2

    @Eloi Hi, we are trying to keep everything updated, current, and consistent, hence we have placeholders for 2D and 3D even if we may not have that ready (we try to use the same template for every page)
    For the cable assemblies (not flexes) we will not have 3D drawings of them.
    However, if you can let us know if any 2D drawings are most critical to you at the moment, we can prioritize getting some more info posted for you.
    For the flexes, we have a mix of 2D (older products) and 3D for newer products, so hopefully that can get you what you need.
    As for the discrepancy in 15cm vs 14.5cm, it depends on how you view it and we apologize for the inconsistency (we have several folks contribute to our website daily, so it's likely we just have differences of reference points).
    On some dimensions, we provide the end-to-end length, and on some we provide the center-to-center (relative to the connector) as the length since that represents that actual extension. For example the 150mm extension, that is the end to end length, but it only represents a 145mm extension due to connector center-center spacing. We'll try to improve on this consistency and make sure all the data is there so you are not left guessing anything.
    Thanks!

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      Vinny
      ModalAI Team
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      #3

      Hi @Eloi , I just went in and made some updates for you specifically on M0008 and M0010, so I hope that helps.
      I also went and changed the titles of M0036 to reflect the end-to-end length to match product descriptions.
      Let me know how else we can help!
      Thanks!

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      • E Eloi

        Dear,
        We are missing some dimensions from the cables to add them into our 3D model of a drone:

        https://docs.modalai.com/m0008/#3d-step-file and https://docs.modalai.com/m0008/#2d-diagram redirecting to the same web page and no 2D images of the dimensions.

        https://docs.modalai.com/m0010/#3d-step-file and https://docs.modalai.com/m0010/#2d-diagram redirecting to the same web page with 2D images but no dimensions.

        https://docs.modalai.com/m0036/#2d-diagram with 3D cad, but 2D images missing "heights", "accepted" as there is 3D model.

        https://docs.modalai.com/m0074/#3d-step-file without 3D CAD, but redirecting to the same web page with 2D images but no dimensions. What's the real lenght? it was 15cm for the 14.5cm extension cable. Is 6.5cm for the 6cm extension cable? (notice the oposite in lenghts and "product name")

        https://docs.modalai.com/m0076/#3d-step-file redirecting to the same web page with 2D images but no full dimensions, heigh of the board?

        https://docs.modalai.com/m0084/#2d-diagram with 2D images but no dimensions, "accepted" as there is 3D model.

        MFPC-M0040 extension cable for ToF sensor missing datasheet?

        Thanks!
        Eloi

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        Vinny
        ModalAI Team
        wrote on last edited by
        #4

        @Eloi I forgot to include this: https://docs.modalai.com/voxl-tof-sensor-datasheet/
        It's kept under a different section as a direct image sensor product... sorry for the confusion.

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          Eloi
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          wrote on last edited by
          #5

          Dear @Vinny!
          Many many thanks for the update!
          We thought this list could help you organize the info provided as we found those inconsistencies! Awesome rework!

          There is only 3 missing CADs so we have everything we need:

          • https://docs.modalai.com/m0084/#2d-diagram the CAD in general
          • https://docs.modalai.com/m0076/#2d-diagrams just the offset from the J1 connector as J2 looks centered!
          • MFPC-M0040 2D-diagram cable extension from https://docs.modalai.com/voxl-tof-sensor-datasheet/#2d3d-drawings
            (the extension of it with +-1mm precision is enough so you can check it with a caliper if you have one around!)
            By the way, I got the name from the images of your link, this name is not listed anywhere else! (nor written!)

          Thanks!

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          • E Eloi

            Dear @Vinny!
            Many many thanks for the update!
            We thought this list could help you organize the info provided as we found those inconsistencies! Awesome rework!

            There is only 3 missing CADs so we have everything we need:

            • https://docs.modalai.com/m0084/#2d-diagram the CAD in general
            • https://docs.modalai.com/m0076/#2d-diagrams just the offset from the J1 connector as J2 looks centered!
            • MFPC-M0040 2D-diagram cable extension from https://docs.modalai.com/voxl-tof-sensor-datasheet/#2d3d-drawings
              (the extension of it with +-1mm precision is enough so you can check it with a caliper if you have one around!)
              By the way, I got the name from the images of your link, this name is not listed anywhere else! (nor written!)

            Thanks!

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            Vinny
            ModalAI Team
            wrote on last edited by
            #6

            Hi @Eloi
            I just updated M0084 and M0040 with more info. Please give the website a few minutes to update.
            For M0076, it's a bit tricky since we have the origin off-center (it was centered at one point, then we changed the outline, etc... natural flow of PCB design to make changes as we went).
            In any event, here is a snapshot of the J1 connector center measured relative to the lower left board corner:
            c82cc00d-582e-414b-bd88-152eab2c2785-image.png
            and another view relative to the lower-right corner... hope these help!
            42fff017-2a56-494f-bf04-6b35d6bcd433-image.png

            We'll try to get better dimensions posted eventually on this, but hopefully this covers you for now.

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              Eloi
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              #7

              Many Many thanks @Vinny !
              So useful! now we can have everything in CAD!

              For me, this post can be "closed"!
              Eloi

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              • E Eloi

                Many Many thanks @Vinny !
                So useful! now we can have everything in CAD!

                For me, this post can be "closed"!
                Eloi

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                Vinny
                ModalAI Team
                wrote on last edited by
                #8

                @Eloi Great, please feel free to start a new forum post should you need any further help!
                Thanks and have a great week!

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                  I'll continue this post, as is related to dimensions:
                  From https://docs.modalai.com/m0010/#2d-diagram it says on top: "100mm edge-to-edge for an 80mm baseline, ~20mm “T” height", but the sensor to sensor distance is roughly 85mm between the stereo cameras following the dimensions of the drawing, notice the cameras are on the middle of the "short cut":
                  847fae31-1db1-4963-9dac-57ade83b8412-image.png
                  e15cebc5-ff7f-43ea-97c2-dd7c7c9edb21-image.png
                  See below the real distance following the dimensions:
                  8f6a5bdd-3ef0-4541-9d5c-10abb86f390f-image.png
                  In the CAD from the Seeker it's 80mm, just like the description of the cable (a the bottom of the image says 80mm):
                  17828a24-2af2-4c09-b99b-7f72f3e18389-image.png

                  Which should be the correct distance between stereo sensors?
                  If it's 80mm we can bend a bit the "T shape cable" to get the cameras to 80mm without much problem.

                  Thanks!
                  Eloi

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                    Eloi
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #10

                    So, 80mm or ~85.57mm?C
                    Can this be changed via software? Where?
                    Thanks!

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #11

                      The stereo extrinsic parameters should be resolved through the stereo calibration process

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